Yup, same here, chicken too.I get really gelatinous and collagen rich broth from my turkey by simmering for hours without ever using vinegar.
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Yup, same here, chicken too.I get really gelatinous and collagen rich broth from my turkey by simmering for hours without ever using vinegar.
I have never put vinegar or other acid in my broth/soup. Plenty of "gel" -- maybe the vinegar is to get more calcium into the broth. I remember a science demonstration where you leave a chicken bone in vinegar over-night and it gets flexible & rubbery because the calcium is removed from the bone.Yup, same here, chicken too.
So your processor removes the backs from the frozen halves? More meat in the pack to save space in the freezer, I guess. The gelatin is from the collagen in the joints, necks make nice broth that gels, too. Are the necks packaged with the backs? I never took my birds to a processor, there were none to be found in Riverside, CA that would do just a few chickens or ducks. The backs sound pretty meaty, maybe 1 back and the feet would be a nice amount of meat and gelatinous broth. I got some huge over 10 pound Cornish-X that a roasted like a turkey, those bones were the best chicken soup! Lots of breast meat on a 10 pound Cornish cross, we cut that off for sandwiches because you can't eat it all in one dinner, so I can see why you have frozen halves. I just bought a 15 cu ft freezer so that I could freeze them whole. I freeze the necks and feet and gizzards together for soup.
Y'all..... Welp.
Last night I thought, "lemme just toss a half a chicken in there. The meat will taste nice added to the broth, too." So I filled up with 8 quarts of water on a half chicken. I haven't opened a half chicken before, and it was frozen so I just put it in.
Anyway, what an idiot. There's no back on the half chicken. I was feeling like there were quite a few more backs than I was really expecting from the processor, and also like my halves were sort of small from what I was expecting them to be.
My broth was not gelatinous at all.
Trial and error! I tried again this morning with two backs, but I really only think I need one. They're huge, like 2 pounds each. It's cooling, and already gelling. Somewhere in the middle is probably the answer.
I’m looking into really upscaling my whole poultry operation so ive been trying out the two USDA processors near me.So your processor removes the backs from the frozen halves? More meat in the pack to save space in the freezer, I guess. The gelatin is from the collagen in the joints, necks make nice broth that gels, too. Are the necks packaged with the backs? I never took my birds to a processor, there were none to be found in Riverside, CA that would do just a few chickens or ducks. The backs sound pretty meaty, maybe 1 back and the feet would be a nice amount of meat and gelatinous broth. I got some huge over 10 pound Cornish-X that a roasted like a turkey, those bones were the best chicken soup! Lots of breast meat on a 10 pound Cornish cross, we cut that off for sandwiches because you can't eat it all in one dinner, so I can see why you have frozen halves. I just bought a 15 cu ft freezer so that I could freeze them whole. I freeze the necks and feet and gizzards together for soup.
That would be a great gift! I know of one small processor in Prescott, but the prices are very high, $300.00 for a pig. I did not see any mention of chicken at all on their web site. Not sure I would even want to find out! But, it sure would be nice to take them in and pick up finished chickens . . .I’m looking into really upscaling my whole poultry operation so ive been trying out the two USDA processors near me.
Spatchcocking the whole birds cooks so nice, I thought it would be the same for a half. It didn’t even register to me that the back wouldn’t be there!
Anyway, yes, I had them give me a bunch of halves and quarters from my last batch for gifts this holiday season for family and friends. It’s perfect, it’s something very near and dear to me, and I’ve already crossed most everyone off my list! Anyway.... I think I only did maybe 15 whole birds out of 65 this summer, the rest were all parted various ways.... which leaves the back.
Yes, the backs have the necks.
This winter I’m going to make sure I keep the feet.
Just showing my age, I guess! My kids spend over$200 on their cable bill, but I can't!$300 for a whole hog is typical here. Maybe a titch high, but can easily be that if you get a lot of different flavored brats.