Brabanters and Spitzhaubens--The Differences PIC HEAVY!

[hallerlake]

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Spitzes are the only breed I've ever hatched where I didn't get at least 75% males.....I hatched 9 eggs, 8 girls and one boy. I'd love it if I could do that with all my breeds!!!!!!

My first hatch, 3 out of 5 were cockerels. My second hatch, one out of seven was a cockerels. That's 75% pullets, but it's too small a sample to be statistically relevant.

 

[flitter]

Let's build the base. My first batch 5 out of 5 were pullets. The second batch 5 out of 9 cockerels.

Just felt like putting my two cents (two batches) in.

 

[chrisf]

I asked Benjamin Milby, a UK top breeder and exhibitor of all the colors Spitzhauben varieties come in, " what differences are there between the Spitzhauben and the Brabanter besides the obvious beard?"...........according to the standards in the UK this is his reply: "If we look to the Golds for example the colour is different as Brabanters are meant to have half moon crescent lacing not spangles as on an Appenzeller Spitzhauben, the beard obviously is a major difference and also the Brabanter should be an altogether more cobby bird with a more upright carriage than an Appenzeller Spitzhauben.".........so, there really are obvious differences in body shape, spangling, lacing, and carriage......this should be a guide when breeding towards a standard which, unfortunately, we do not have in the States........................................................chrisf

 

[momma-hen]

I've always understood that Brabanters should have half-moon spangling, not lacing. Lacing goes aroundmuch more of the feather.

 

[hallerlake]

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Cobby?

 

[momma-hen]

I interpreted "cobby" as being more stout. Of course, that was just my guess.
The rebuilt version of Brabanters are not as large as the originals. I wonder if the UK rebuilts are bigger than the US rebuilts.


BTW, April (H&H Poultry) and I are working on Standards. but we need people to show their birds!!

 

[allen wranch]

momma-hen wrote:
BTW, April (H&H Poultry) and I are working on Standards. but we need people to show their birds!!

Are you trying to breed birds to fit the European Standard, writing standards for US Brabanters or what ?????​

 

[momma-hen]

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Are you trying to breed birds to fit the European Standard, writing standards for US Brabanters or what ?????

For the american Brabanter, much as what they did for the BC Marans.

 

[silky_3699]

I am looking for Spot, the Appenzellar Spitzhauben!

 

[Stumpfarmer]

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Cobby?

"Cobby" in cattle and horses means short-coupled: legs and neck short in proportion to the size of the body, in reference to Cob horses which are light draft/ heavy carriage horses and or ponies. It is not usually considered a complement.