Brabanters and Spitzhaubens--The Differences PIC HEAVY!

[EweSheep]

 

[flitter]

After looking at Carla's beautiful birds I hate to be the next to post pictures but... I will anyway.
These are the 4 cockerels from my spring chicks. I hope to keep 2 with the pullets until spring. (I do have a place to move one to if they get too rowdy... would rather not have another waterer/feeder to tend in winter if I don't have to.) I'm trying to decide which 2 to keep. They are 16 weeks old.
I thought I'd decided but am having second thoughts about one of my choices. I'd really appreciate your opinions. Thank you so much for looking. Jan aka Flitter

#1

#2 I loved this guy's carriage, etc but his crest has really back swept.

#3

#3 again

#4 is the bird in back... he is very uncooperative about pictures.

 

[hallerlake]

Quote:
I'd go with one and four, but I'm no expert. As we recently learned, Spitz aren't supposed to have an upright carriage. They're supposed to be "cobby".

 

[flitter]

I knew I should never go and read standards... I went to the Appenzeller Spitz site in the uk... I usually like to just look at pictures!

They said:
Carriage: Neat and very active
Type: Body well rounded, medium long, walnut - shaped. Breast full, carried high.
Head: Medium sized, held high
Never saw "cobby"... wonder what it means? Small and stout? I know some people like that... better not call them cobby!

Seriously, who told us "cobby"? I usually read this forum daily but must have missed that. And thank you for you opinion. I like #1 and can't decided between 3 and 4.

 

[hallerlake]

Quote:
Personally, I prefer pictures, too. They make more sense to me. I guess the "well rounded,...walnut shaped" is what someone meant by "cobby'. Breast "carried high" does sound like they should be upright. So, I guess we want them upright, but not too slender. I wish an expert would post pictures and explain what's good or not good about them.

 

[flitter]

It's hard when you start with a breed. There aren't any of these around to see either. Mine are more slender than round. I love their long legs.

 

[hallerlake]

I found these on the UK AS site. Since they seem to have taken firsts, I'm guessing they must be good examples.

 

[hallerlake]

She looks walnut shaped, but what about him?

 

[hallerlake]

Quote:
Sorry, that was on the Facebook Appenzeller Spitzhauben Club site. https://www.facebook.com/groups/139043868362/ One of the UK members said that.

 

[hallerlake]

Quote:
Someone on the FB site said EU Spitz have shorter legs than American Spitz, too.