Brabanters and Spitzhaubens--The Differences PIC HEAVY!

[EweSheep]

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Just cream. And you know you want some!

Now what are my chances of getting two pullets out of a doz eggs???

 

[amazondoc]

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Order pullets from Ideal. With brabanters, there's so few people breeding -- and all the breeding stock seems to have come from Ideal anyway -- I don't see any great benefit of going to a private breeder. Of course, that will all change once I get started.

 

[EweSheep]

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Order pullets from Ideal. With brabanters, there's so few people breeding -- and all the breeding stock seems to have come from Ideal anyway -- I don't see any great benefit of going to a private breeder. Of course, that will all change once I get started.

Oh YEAAAAAH! I would be looking forward in seeing yours!

 

[okcarla]

Thanks for all the info on the brabanter and spitzhauben differences.

Here's pic's of my birds taken last year.

I guess I need to cull all brabanter roos with wattles that show though

 

[amazondoc]

With my very limited experience, it seems to me that reasonably good brabanter roos are harder to come by than reasonable brabanter pullets. I got 20 chicks this spring -- 15 pullets and 5 cockerels. But I wasn't really impressed with ANY of the cockerels. I'm going to use one of them, but only until I can get a better one somewhere!

 

[EweSheep]

Is there a case you can use a half bearded Brabanter roo? I am not sure about the genetic dominant in beards in poultry. I am guessing they are since our Amercuanas seems to pass that bearded genes in their offsprings.

I would hate to lose the quality, thats for sure!

I would keep the hens because all I see are beards LOL! However wattles might pass down to their offsprings. Let's hope it doesnt! It's a start, that is all I have to go by. I certainly hope we do find one breeder somewhere that will come out of the wood work!

 

[amazondoc]

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How do you mean half bearded?

And yup, those pics are of my keeper pullets. I bought 15 in the spring, and I'll use about six of those for breeding next year.

 

[EweSheep]

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How do you mean half bearded?

And yup, those pics are of my keeper pullets. I bought 15 in the spring, and I'll use about six of those for breeding next year.

Half bearded means some wattles showing but not totally like the pictures we have seen on websites here in the US.

 

[mmizell]

Just to add to this discussion.. here is an email I received from a person on on this list.. that also raises Brabanters, also like Amazondoc seems to be very versed in the breed. I asked a question about.. the wattles of course.

Here is what they said:

My cocks do have wattles but they are covered by the muffs and beards. I breed for muffs and beards but I do hatch many cockerels that have un-muffed wattles. I do not like them as well but there is no standard on them yet so it is hard to say what the proper thing is. In the Ideal pictures they show the muffs. I prefer the muffs. I have seen only one other picture in print and it is in a genetics book by David Black. A wonderful book about feather color genetics and the Brabanter in there does not have a muff and has large wattles.
M

 

[EweSheep]

That is the problem, no standard here in the United States. If we go by what the Europeans do, they prefer beards over wattles. I have seen too many pictures of bearded Brabanters and perhaps all the wattles I saw were the US version. If we are to go in the right direction, one will have to start doing something whether Brabanters should have wattles or not. That is why I had to contact a breeder who was from the Netherlands and the photographer that lives somewhere in the UK all have said bearded ones are preferred than the wattles and it would be points taken off when they exhibit a Brabanter rooster with wattles. So I say go figure!

If this breeder main objective to try to get bearded ones, then she is in the right direction, IMO and I would support in her endeavor in promoting this breed of having beards.

Wished there is a few Brabanter UK breeders in here but none so far.