Brahma Breeders thread

[DesertBrahma]

Dark as in dark Brahma (silver penciled), I get.

Blue, gold ?  As in blue or gold partridge ?

Forgive me if I should know/remember this. Jump around to too many posts to keep everybody straight in my head.

1 has a blueish cast to her coloring, she's a lighter golden color on her back and wings that fades into blue. The goldens are a golden with penciling. Not like buffs which are a solid coloring. I posted a pic of my cockerel/almost rooster, and a golden. Didn't get a good pic of Big Mamma which is the blue. Yes the darks are true darks. The boy is partridge coloring. I also have a possible lavender but I think she might be a runt. She's so small compared to the others that are the same age. She's a really light colored dark. They make a very eye catching bright color spot in my area of NM desert lol. I love them. I'll try to get some better pics today. I know Everest is a dark and she laid 1 of the eggs because I watched her and snagged it fast lol. I think 2 are from the goldes, and the other might be from the blue. They're all in 1 flock since they're for my family and friends. I'm only going to keep Foghorn and all other boys will go in the freezer. I'm never getting hatchery chicks for my flock. I might get some cornishX for meat but not for this flock. I'll find a breeder and replace Foghorn, , and the girls, or breed my own.

 

[chickenturner]

Any suggestions on a good source for Light Brahma chicks? Does Murry McMurry have good stock? Thanks

 

[DesertBrahma]

Any suggestions on a good source for Light Brahma chicks? Does Murry McMurry have good stock? Thanks

DO NOT GET THIS BREED FROM A HATCHERY!! Get on the Brahma Club website,. They have great breeders on there. I had some hatchery ones and they were aggressive, and scrawny. I now have 1 hatchery girl left and compared to the well bred stock I have she looks horrible. Hatcheries breed for production. Not to breed standard. My cockerels that were hatchery tried to attack my children, and me. I'm the food source and they would try to attack me. I had to keep a light switch handy and lightly tap them occasionally. Also at 8 months they didn't have a lot of meat on them. Foghorn (my new boy) has a ton of muscle, and has a lot more size than they did. Madea my hatchery girl has less side height and width than the other pullets her age, and all the ones younger. The only one with smaller than she is I think is a runt. Skye is almost bantam size. The rest are huge compared to Madea. So please take the advice from someone who's been there. Don't go to a hatchery. If you want real Brahmas get them from good breeders. All of mine are well mannered, and docile. Not freaking out because of the wind, or attacking. Of course it took a week of Big Mama beating the crud out of Madea to keep her from trying to attack me and my babies. Big Mama is about 2x Madeas size, and already 1 1/2yrs old. So Madea didn't have a choice. So again please don't go to a hatchery to get Light Brahmas. They will not meet the Breed Standard, and can be aggressive.

 

[big medicine]

1 has a blueish cast to her coloring, she's a lighter golden color on her back and wings that fades into blue. The goldens are a golden with penciling. Not like buffs which are a solid coloring. I posted a pic of my cockerel/almost rooster, and a golden. Didn't get a good pic of Big Mamma which is the blue. Yes the darks are true darks. The boy is partridge coloring. I also have a possible lavender but I think she might be a runt. She's so small compared to the others that are the same age. She's a really light colored dark. They make a very eye catching bright color spot in my area of NM desert lol. I love them. I'll try to get some better pics today. I know Everest is a dark and she laid 1 of the eggs because I watched her and snagged it fast lol. I think 2 are from the goldes, and the other might be from the blue. They're all in 1 flock since they're for my family and friends. I'm only going to keep Foghorn and all other boys will go in the freezer. I'm never getting hatchery chicks for my flock. I might get some cornishX for meat but not for this flock. I'll find a breeder and replace Foghorn, , and the girls, or breed my own.

It helps me get a picture in my head to first establish what pattern a particular bird is, if it falls in an established pattern. Light and buff Brahmas are columbian patterned. Darks and partridge are penciled. Then you have the wildcat varieties like single and double laced patterns, and others.

Sometimes people get a cross that may show characteristics of two, or more patterns, that looks cool. But if they can not reproduce it's pattern in a high percentage of it's offspring, it is pretty much just a cool looking mutt

Then add color for a more complete description. Light Brahmas are technically a silver columbian, buffs are buff columbian. Dark Brahmas are silver penciled.

Now where it starts getting a little more complicated is partridge, where a true partridge, as found in good Cochins have the deep dark red color that only comes from having the mahogany gene. Just about every gold penciled Brahma I have seen is lacking mahogany, resulting in a much lighter coloration. Some serious breeders of this variety refer to them as golden partridge to be accurate in their description.

Then you have additional modifiers such as blue, (and splash), and others, that also should be noted in the description.

As to your lavender, I have seen what were listed as lavender " Brahmas" offered for sale that looked closer in size and type to your common feral barn pigeon, than a good Brahma. So depending on where/what you got, could very likely be an accurate representative of it's bloodline.

 

[curious chickee]

Anyone coming out to APA nationals in CA? I am attending and my daughters are doing showmanship and exhibiting.

 

[DesertBrahma]

 It helps me get a picture in my head to first establish what pattern a particular bird is, if it falls in an established pattern.  Light and buff Brahmas are columbian patterned. Darks and partridge are penciled.  Then you have the wildcat varieties like single and double laced patterns, and others. 

Sometimes people get a cross that may show characteristics of two, or more patterns, that looks cool. But if they can not reproduce it's pattern in a high percentage of it's offspring, it is pretty much just a cool looking mutt

Then add color for a more complete description. Light Brahmas are technically a silver columbian, buffs are buff columbian. Dark Brahmas are silver penciled.

Now where it starts getting a little more complicated is partridge, where a true partridge, as found in good Cochins have the deep dark red color that only comes from having the mahogany gene. Just about every gold penciled Brahma I have seen is lacking mahogany, resulting in a much lighter coloration. Some serious breeders of this variety refer to them as golden partridge to be accurate in their description.

Then you have additional modifiers such as blue, (and splash), and others, that also should be noted in the description.

As to your lavender, I have seen what were listed as lavender " Brahmas" offered for sale that looked closer in size and type to your common feral barn pigeon, than a good Brahma. So depending on where/what you got, could very likely be an accurate representative of it's bloodline. 

The goldens are buff colored with pencilling. The possible lavender looks like a really light dark. The blue girl has light gold and pencilling on her back and wings then fades into blueish silver on her rump and underside. She's really pretty. Now the possible lavender is a small LF brahma. But she's half the size of all the others. My male is a really pretty dark partridge colors. I posted some pics on here of some of them. I think they're at the top of page 110. They're really pretty all together. I'll repost some pics.

 

[DesertBrahma]

Back of the Blue hen.

Partridge cockerel

Golden pullet
I'll post a pic of Skye my possible lavender after a bit.

 

[big medicine]

The last two photos, I would consider gold partridge, neither deep enough red to call just straight partridge. Can't make much out of the first shot.

 

[DesertBrahma]

Big Mama is a stinker. She wouldn't let me get a good pic of her lol. I'll try to get a better one of her, and of Skye today. They're both pretty.

 

[Westguy]

Nice looking breeding stock. You should hatch some pretty good birds in the Spring.