Bullying. Needs. To. Stop.

[chickened]

I think it is impossible to not believe in nothing which in a nutshell is what atheist say. That is like when someone ask you what are you thinking and they say nothing that is impossible to prove like proving a negative it really has no meaning. It is like saying I choose not to choose, it is utter ridiculousness and if you actually listen to what you are actually saying it really is nonsense... similar to arguing about it which is why I said some don't hold this view but evidently that was not enough. And does one atheist speak for all of what about 4% of American or less? the world population has even less per capita, talk about a losing team to use your soccer analogy. You can use all sorts of big words and studies but everyone believes in something and only a fool cannot see that.

Another example; suing yourself sure you can do it in theory but is it practical? or sane?

 

[AquaEyes]

Not all religious people would believe atheism is a religion either.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purposeof the universe, especially when considered as the creationof a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involvingdevotional and ritual observances, and often containing amoral code governing the conduct of human affairs.​

2.​

a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generallyagreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christianreligion; the Buddhist religion.​

3.​

the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefsand practices: a world council of religions.​

4.​

the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.​

5.​

the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.​

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism​

the doctrine or belief that there is no God.​

2.​

disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.​

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You would have to stretch definition number 2, change it from "beliefs" to "belief", and ignore its wider meaning. The only belief tying atheists together...is a lack of belief in a god/s/higher power/s. Similarly, agnosticism is not a religion. That said, atheism and agnosticism certainly *can* figure into religious/spiritual belief systems...but that does not make all atheists/agnostics religious and does not constitute a religion. Similarly, theism (the belief that there is a god/s) alone does not constitute a religion.​

Unicorns are mentioned in many old stories. Some people believed these stories and the existence of unicorns, but others didn't. Those who didn't believe the stories don't then have a belief that unicorns never existed. Again, not believing something happened is not the same as believing it didn't happen.

Have you been believing that I wore black socks tonight? No? So then you've been believing I DIDN'T wear black socks tonight, right?

Of course not -- you just didn't believe anything about my socks tonight, because my socks didn't matter to you.

 

[AquaEyes]

I think it is impossible to not believe in nothing which in a nutshell is what atheist say. That is like when someone ask you what are you thinking and they say nothing that is impossible to prove like proving a negative it really has no meaning. It is like saying I choose not to choose, it is utter ridiculousness and if you actually listen to what you are actually saying it really is nonsense... similar to arguing about it which is why I said some don't hold this view but evidently that was not enough. And does one atheist speak for all of what about 4% of American or less? the world population has even less per capita, talk about a losing team to use your soccer analogy. You can use all sorts of big words and studies but everyone believes in something and only a fool cannot see that.

Do you believe I have a mug of coffee right now?

Yes -- a belief in my coffee mug.

No -- no belief in my coffee mug.

If you answered "No", does that mean you believe I have no coffee mug?

 

[punk-a-doodle]

Aqua, for many, the socks do matter. That is how the definition reads to me. When the socks aren't important, that seems like agnosticism to me. It's late, and you'll have to eloborate beyond socks for me using the definition posted.

 

[chickened]

AE, what you are saying probably makes sense to you because it is your "belief" or "religion" if I may, or it is what you "practice", being or attempting to be subjective does not exempt you from your humanity. Face it you believe in something and that is your religion, your creedo or whatever you may spin it but it is still a belief no matter what socks you got on or what you are putting in your coffee.

Does me choosing none of the above prove that you have a mug or not? Like I said you are talking jibberish ballicock or whatever, heck just make up a name and we will call it Aquaeyese.

If you think Christian operate on blind faith you know nothing of being a Christian.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Science has no business or method proving or disproving this. Unlike your mug analogy.

If you wish to drag this out to the closing of this thread go for it I am done.

 

[RHRanch]

I think it is impossible to not believe in nothing which in a nutshell is what atheist say. That is like when someone ask you what are you thinking and they say nothing that is impossible to prove like proving a negative it really has no meaning. It is like saying I choose not to choose, it is utter ridiculousness and if you actually listen to what you are actually saying it really is nonsense... similar to arguing about it which is why I said some don't hold this view but evidently that was not enough. And does one atheist speak for all of what about 4% of American or less? the world population has even less per capita, talk about a losing team to use your soccer analogy. You can use all sorts of big words and studies but everyone believes in something and only a fool cannot see that.

Another example; suing yourself sure you can do it in theory but is it practical? or sane?

What? I can't understand this... it's jumbled and I don't understand what you were trying to say. Seriously.

 

[chickened]

never mind

What? I can't understand this... it's jumbled and I don't understand what you were trying to say. Seriously.

 

[AquaEyes]

I think you're trying to blur the lines between a belief system or philosophy, and a religion. Religions are types of belief systems that incorporate an element of spirituality and/or the supernatural, but not all belief systems do so. If you want to include atheism as a religion, you'd also have to include other non-spiritual philosophies or belief systems, like liberalism, conservatism, capitalism, socialism, pacifism, and a slew of others. They all include a belief system, but they aren't "religions" because their beliefs don't include spiritual/supernatural elements.

Atheism is simply not believing in gods -- a non-belief. Atheists can be other things, such as humanists, materialists, etc. These other things have their own beliefs and philosophies, but they don't include the spiritual/supernatural element -- so they're not religions.

 

[KristyHall]

Oh! BTW

Hi Aqua Eyes!

 

[chickened]

I suppose that is possible but it falls into one of those unprovable areas of human behavior.

I think you're trying to blur the lines between a belief system or philosophy, and a religion. Religions are types of belief systems that incorporate an element of spirituality and/or the supernatural, but not all belief systems do so. If you want to include atheism as a religion, you'd also have to include other non-spiritual philosophies or belief systems, like liberalism, conservatism, capitalism, socialism, pacifism, and a slew of others. They all include a belief system, but they aren't "religions" because their beliefs don't include spiritual/supernatural elements.

Atheism is simply not believing in gods -- a non-belief. Atheists can be other things, such as humanists, materialists, etc. These other things have their own beliefs and philosophies, but they don't include the spiritual/supernatural element -- so they're not religions.