Bumblefoot, New Ideas on Treatment with pictures

[Murduck]

You can treat everyday with soaks and iodine till the scab will pull up easily or you can skip a day in between depends on how fast you want to take care of it and how bad it is. Good yours is not bad you'll be able to get a handle on it pretty quick if you'll do this daily till the scab pulls off with out bring fresh skin with it.

Thank you! I definitely would rather knock it out but it's good to know that if I need to skip a day for any reason it won't set me back either (just drag it out). I'm getting this iodine on my way home today!

 

[cchicks4]

On July 1st, I found one of my Pekin ducks with what I would consider a bad case of Bumblefoot. Both feet were involved and I'm ashamed to say, the only way I found it was she was limping. One foot had 7 and the other had 3. I was able to grab her and bring her into the house and put her into a warm bath to clean and soak. Two water changes later and softened feet, all I had time to do was paint the bumbles with colorless iodine, grabbed the wrong stuff, and put her into a dog crate in my house until I could get everything ready to operate and get them gone. Did I mention the thought of this scared me half to death?

Sad to say it took 6 days before i was able to get everything together and someone to help out with the 'cure'. The following pictures are what we found after the bath we gave before the planned surgery to remove these things.




















As can be seen, there really wasn't much to operate on, even though I was prepared to do just that. No matter how much squeezing or prodding or soaking, there just wasn't anything more to come out, it was all on the scabs that were covering the sores. The swelling was down from the 'marbles' I saw when I first found them. I poured betadine over the ones I had opened and painted the ones that I hadn't again with the iodine and put her back into her crate with clean bedding.

the next pictures are of the same Pekin and anothe duck, Dottie the Mallard, who was also found limping.












As can be seen in the first two pictures, the bumbles have been dramatically reduced on the Pekin with just the iodine application and the smaller ones totally gone. The last four pictures are of the Mallard who is still under going the iodine applications.

As can be seen, this is how the left and right foot look tonight on the Pekin duck. The heels being the worst are still showing infection and need for more treatment. tomorrow, I will again give a bath and pull/cut out the scabbing and treat with straight iodine this time. These spots are now flat or as flat as they should be considering the part of the foot they are on. I will still touch up the places that had the spots before as well.

I’m just about to treat my Pekin. Did you bandage the feet afterwards ?

 

[cchicks4]

I've only Had to treat bumble in my chickens but if you can make her shoe out of a plastic bowl just cut the plastic about size of the foot then wrap in vet wrap then lay the foot on it and wrap it may stay better I know they are amazing how they can get things off either wrap or keep on clean bedding

Ahh that is a good idea! Thanks for the tip. I’ll have to give it a try and see how she takes it.

 

[Betsy57]

My chickens are doing good right now with all the bumblefoot I treated over the summer. I imagine it'll flare its ugly head again sometime but for now what I did has worked.

 

[aart]

Does anyone know if the colorless iodine will work on bumblefoot that is between the toes and does not have a scab/head on it?

It might......but looks like a significant case of scaly leg mites going on there too.

 

[aart]

Yeah I have treated them so many times. I’m going to do it every five days for a while and see if it kills the mites.

How long have the scales been that raised?
Sometimes the underlying tissue is so scarred taht the scales will never look right again.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Yes I will tonight when I take off her bandage. I cleaned her foot with vetericin and applied the noncolored iodine and then bandaged since she has a tiny cut on the bottom of her foot which is likely how that got started. It’s rained almost daily for two weeks in Kentucky keeping her foot pad soft. She’s also my only girl I’ve ever had to moult the entire summer. She started in July last year and late May this year. It’s dragging her immune system down some and I think that is probably a huge factor as well. I have beefed up her protein with some egg white powder three times a day just a small amount.

View attachment 1807867 View attachment 1807866 Here are some more pics though I’m not sure they are very clear. The bubble looks a little bigger. You can see the healing cut on bottom of her pad. When looking at the pic of the bottom of her foot, the bubble is located between the left two toes seen. There is no swelling on the underside of the bubble.

Do you have photos of her too? Does she molt for the whole summer and then lay through winter?
What do you feed her?

The cut on the bottom of the foot looks like it's healing. In the crease, is there something there too?
You can try the Clear Iodine to see if it helps. If it doesn't, then using Tricide Neo may be a better choice. https://ouroneacrefarm.com/2013/11/09/bumblefoot-treatment-tricideneo/

 

[aart]

I forgot to tell you the black stuff you put an arrow on in the pic is just some thin dirt wedged in there. It wasn’t packed or anything.

Might want to clean it out and take a close look, those packed folds could get infected and/or cause the swelling you are seeing on the other side of it.
There was another thread on this previously.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

Oooo you found it! Gonna save this one.

LOL I knew it was somewhere, but I had to go searching. I know there are others, but that one gives a good idea.

 

[SandyK]

I used to use Iodine to help with the Bumblefoot in my chickens until I read an article that it was not good. Unfortunately, I didn't save the article, but just now I Googled it and found this one this one below. Since then I've changed over to Vetericyn after reading so many testimonies on how good it was for healing. Now I agree 100% and use it every time I see the first sign of Bumblefoot or any other type of wound on my girls. Hope this helps. I lost a couple of my chickens before I found this product and wish I had had it on hand to use for them.

CUTS AND SCRAPES
Hydrogen Peroxide, Iodine, Rubbing Alcohol, Mercurochrome

When the skin isn’t broken, it’s hard to beat iodine for killing bacteria. That’s why doctors use it to clean an area before surgery. But when there’s a cut, says dermatologist Robert Kirsner, a spokesperson for the American Academy of Dermatology, full-strength iodine, hydrogen peroxide and rubbing alcohol can be toxic to skin cells, impeding healing. The chemical reaction (and bubbling) that occurs when hydrogen peroxide hits the skin isn’t only cleaning the wound—it’s killing healthy cells. And that stinging from the rubbing alcohol? This stuff hurts because it’s wiping out healthy tissue.
Putting iodine on cuts and wounds kills bacteria, says VanRooyen, but it won’t clean the wound. “You want to protect the good tissue, and iodine doesn’t do that.” Mercurochrome also kills bacteria, but as the name suggests, it contains mercury, which is toxic, and not generally recognized as safe, says the FDA. Today, doctors don’t use Mercurochrome.
Better Bet
Remarkably, cleansing a wound has become much simpler: “The most effective way to get rid of debris and bacteria without damaging healthy tissue is flushing the wound out with water,” says VanRooyen. Put the wound under a faucet, or spray it with the nozzle on the kitchen sink. Flush it with water to clear it of all debris. If you are worried about the bandage sticking to the wound, consider using an antibacterial ointment that contains bacitracin or neomycin to keep the area lubricated.

Read more: http://www.rd.com/health/wellness/7-first-aid-standbys-you-should-never-use/#ixzz2ZvTKpIUw