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[ronott1]

OK, I need help.

I have a sick silkie from next years flock. she did not go to bed last night, so I moved her into the coop when we got home. This morning when I went out there she hadn't moved, so I brought her inside. She is very sleepy and lethargic. Being a silkie, I couldnt tell if she was puffy, so I put some sulfed in her water, but she has to be forced to drink. gave her some vitimans on her beak and got a little of both in her, but not a ton.

Her poop did not look very well digested, but not red. Did not smell great ( but better then turkey poop, so who knows) she has sneezed, and it was wet, but I cant hear anything in her breathing. And the sneeze could have been water now that I think about it. cant see her eyes, I could trim her feathers to look. She was sleeping with her head all the way down, but did get up and has iched herself several times. mostly she is just sleeping unless I pick her up, then she complains a bit.

I'm trying to make her drink a little every 1/2 hr. what else should I look for? I dont want to loose purples, shes my favorite of next years breeders . One of the famous foot sitters.

Oh, so sorry!

The Sneezing could be a Crop Blockage so not necessarily a respiratory problem. Check the crop and check for a stuck egg. Egg bound can block the intestines, so they do not work correctly.

Other than that, food like scrambled eggs and water and vitamins. If you see respiratory symptoms, Something like Tylan.


Of course if she is suffering and you are sure she won't make it, culling and off to the Lab for a Necropsy.


I hope she gets better soon

Ron

 

[chiqita]

Crop seems empty. She's only 3 or so months no eggs. She doesn't seen to be in bad pain. I'll check her breathing and nose again when she wakes up
Ty ron

 

[zooweemama]

Got the report! Hold up...doing some copy and pasting if I can!

 

[ronott1]

Got the report! Hold up...doing some copy and pasting if I can!

click on the paper clip icon and insert it as a pdf file.

Ron

 

[zooweemama]

Lab Findings:

1. Pneumonia, multifocal, necrotizing, granulomatous with intralesional fungi ( presumptive Aspergillus sp.).
2. Proventriculitis, focal, necrotizing with intralesional bacteria.
3. Sinus: fungal invasion of the mucosa.
Ancillary test results:
a. No significant aerobic bacteria isolated from the lungs and liver.
b. Negative for avian influenza by PCR.
c. Enteric Salmonella not detected by PCR.

09-20-12. This chicken had a fungal pneumonia. Fungal pneumonia can occur when an animal is immunosuppressed or on
chronic antibiotics. They also get infection when there is overwhelming exposure. There was a focus of the sinus mucosa with
fungal invasion as well. The source should be found and cleaned if this chicken was in a coop.

This 12-week-old male chicken (Marans) is submitted in good postmortem condition. This chicken is emaciated with
minimal pectoral muscle. The oropharynx is unremarkable as is the esophagus and crop. The trachea is clear and dry .
The lungs are dark pink and there are military tan foci in both lungs. There is no feed in the crop or proventriculus /gizzard.
The intestines are unremarkable. The spleen, liver, kidneys, heart are unremarkable. The proventricular wall is uniformly
thickened.

 

[zooweemama]

Lab Findings:

1. Pneumonia, multifocal, necrotizing, granulomatous with intralesional fungi ( presumptive Aspergillus sp.).
2. Proventriculitis, focal, necrotizing with intralesional bacteria.
3. Sinus: fungal invasion of the mucosa.
Ancillary test results:
a. No significant aerobic bacteria isolated from the lungs and liver.
b. Negative for avian influenza by PCR.
c. Enteric Salmonella not detected by PCR.

09-20-12. This chicken had a fungal pneumonia. Fungal pneumonia can occur when an animal is immunosuppressed or on
chronic antibiotics. They also get infection when there is overwhelming exposure. There was a focus of the sinus mucosa with
fungal invasion as well. The source should be found and cleaned if this chicken was in a coop.

This 12-week-old male chicken (Marans) is submitted in good postmortem condition. This chicken is emaciated with
minimal pectoral muscle. The oropharynx is unremarkable as is the esophagus and crop. The trachea is clear and dry .
The lungs are dark pink and there are military tan foci in both lungs. There is no feed in the crop or proventriculus /gizzard.
The intestines are unremarkable. The spleen, liver, kidneys, heart are unremarkable. The proventricular wall is uniformly
thickened.

It had to be the freaking misters making everything damp in the run! They haven't been given antibiotics since they were moved TO the coop from the brooder and that was months ago. And actually the 12 week batch has never gotten antibiotics. I don't know what to do? Cover the run in sand? Leave misters off? The run is well shaded too...so wet earth from the misters, hot temps and lots of shade? AHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[ronott1]

Quote:

2. Proventriculitis, focal, necrotizing with intralesional bacteria.

3. Sinus: fungal invasion of the mucosa.
Ancillary test results:
a. No significant aerobic bacteria isolated from the lungs and liver.
b. Negative for avian influenza by PCR.
c. Enteric Salmonella not detected by PCR.

09-20-12. This chicken had a fungal pneumonia. Fungal pneumonia can occur when an animal is immunosuppressed or on
chronic antibiotics. They also get infection when there is overwhelming exposure. There was a focus of the sinus mucosa with
fungal invasion as well. The source should be found and cleaned if this chicken was in a coop.

This 12-week-old male chicken (Marans) is submitted in good postmortem condition. This chicken is emaciated with
minimal pectoral muscle. The oropharynx is unremarkable as is the esophagus and crop. The trachea is clear and dry .
The lungs are dark pink and there are military tan foci in both lungs. There is no feed in the crop or proventriculus /gizzard.
The intestines are unremarkable. The spleen, liver, kidneys, heart are unremarkable. The proventricular wall is uniformly
thickened.

It had to be the freaking misters making everything damp in the run! They haven't been given antibiotics since they were moved TO the coop from the brooder and that was months ago. And actually the 12 week batch has never gotten antibiotics. I don't know what to do? Cover the run in sand? Leave misters off? The run is well shaded too...so wet earth from the misters, hot temps and lots of shade? AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Clean the coop and run and treat with copper sulfate spray. You will have to make a temp run for them. Megan mentioned a medicine you can give to the sick ones.

Yay! This is very treatable. Look for exact methods and etc.

Ron

 

[zooweemama]

Clean the coop and run and treat with copper sulfate spray. You will have to make a temp run for them. Megan mentioned a medicine you can give to the sick ones.

Yay! This is very treatable. Look for exact methods and etc.

Ron

I could die with relief! So clean up the coop/run, put down copper sulfate...Their coop is dry dry dry. It's the run that is wet- well half of it from the misters but the coop is dry. So would it be ok to clean the coop and run in the morning while chickens are out ranging, treat it and close the run off for a week or so while the ground dries after the treatment? It's cooling so I can easily leave the misters off until next Summer anyway. And next year find a different want to cool them off or put the misters out away from the run/coop.

Is there a medicine that can treat fungal pneumonia...I didn't even know there was such a thing!

 

[Happy Chooks]

I've never heard of it either Amy. But my birds are barely panting these days, so you shouldn't need the misters anymore. I don't have misters in my flock and (knock on wood) have yet to lose a bird to heat. (though you are hotter than me in the summer)

 

[ronott1]

Quote: Look up the exact method, but yes you have the right idea. The copper sulfate kills the mold that causes the infection.

Yes, there is a medicine. It is an anti fungal. Megan just posted on the Basque thread. I will send her a text message.

ron