California - Northern

[cherylcohen]

I've been told that upping the protein, using calf manna will darken the marans eggs, does anyone know about that claim?

 

[ronott1]

Quote: Ultra Kibble is what you should give them. Toss the boss out on the ground to them. Do not mix it into the feed. they will eat what they need to of it.

Over time, soy will mess up the chickens. No Animal should eat soy all the time.

Ultra Kibble label:

INGREDIENTS: Corn Gluten Meal, Sorghum, Vegetable Oil, Rice Bran, Cane Molasses, Dicalcium Phosphate, Fish Meal, Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate, Salmon Meal, Cinnamon, Diatomaceous Earth, Dehydrated Watercress Pulp, Dehydrated Spinach Pulp, Dehydrated Carrot Pulp, Dehydrated Lettuce Pulp, Dehydrated Beet Pulp, Dehydrated Celery Pulp, Choline Chloride, Turmeric, Propionic Acid (Preservative), Sorbic Acid (Preservative), Benzoic Acid (Preservative), L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Roughage Products, Mineral Oil, Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Silicon Dioxide, Citric Acid, Mixed Tocopherols (Preservative), Rosemary Extract, Manganous Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Copper Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite

 

[ronott1]

I've been told that upping the protein, using calf manna will darken the marans eggs, does anyone know about that claim?

On the Heritage thread someone said to get horse Manure and feed it to the chickens. It is supposed to make the feathers look better for a show.

I can see a lot of problems with that. mixing manure into feed is how we spread Mad Cow Disease.

The color comes from a pigment, which is probably produced by liver enzymes. Increasing the enzymes might make them darker. Probably not protein level.

 

[PetRock]

Ultra Kibble is what you should give them. Toss the boss out on the ground to them. Do not mix it into the feed. they will eat what they need to of it.

Over time, soy will mess up the chickens. No Animal should eat soy all the time.

Ultra Kibble label:

INGREDIENTS: Corn Gluten Meal, Sorghum, Vegetable Oil, Rice Bran, Cane Molasses, Dicalcium Phosphate, Fish Meal, Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate, Salmon Meal, Cinnamon, Diatomaceous Earth, Dehydrated Watercress Pulp, Dehydrated Spinach Pulp, Dehydrated Carrot Pulp, Dehydrated Lettuce Pulp, Dehydrated Beet Pulp, Dehydrated Celery Pulp, Choline Chloride, Turmeric, Propionic Acid (Preservative), Sorbic Acid (Preservative), Benzoic Acid (Preservative), L-Lysine Monohydrochloride, Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin E Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Riboflavin Supplement, Biotin, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Roughage Products, Mineral Oil, Lactobacillus Acidophilus Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Lactobacillus Casei Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Bifidobacterium Thermophilum Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Enterococcus Faecium Fermentation Product Dehydrated, Silicon Dioxide, Citric Acid, Mixed Tocopherols (Preservative), Rosemary Extract, Manganous Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Copper Oxide, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite

So Calf Manna has soy in it?

 

[PetRock]

So Calf Manna has soy in it?

So, I see you answered my question before I even answered it! That shows how fast this thread can move!

 

[PetRock]

Can you buy Ultra Kibble from a local source or does it need to be ordered?

 

[PetRock]

Soy bean meal is the second ingredient in Dr. Cheeke's YQ. I'm trying to cut down or eliminate soy completely so I guess I won't be buying anymore of this supplement.


INGREDIENTS
Rice Bran, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Ground Wheat, Suncured Alfalfa Meal, Almond HullMeal, Flax Seed, Refined Menhaden
Fish Oil, Calcium Carbonate, Refined Soy Lecithin, Quillaja Saponaria Powder, Yucca Schidigera Whole Plant Powder,
Salt, Yeast Culture, Mannan Oligosaccharides (derived from Brewers Dried Yeast and Dried Saccharomyces cerevisiae
Fermentation Solubles), Vitamin E Supplement, d,l Methionine, Thyme Leaf Powder, Turmeric Root Powder, Hydrolyzed
Yeast, Hydrated Calcium-Sodium Aluminosilicate, Direct-Fed Microorganisms (Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus,
Lactobacillus casei, Bifidobacterium bifidium, Enterococcus faecium and Aspergillus oryzae fermentation products), Zinc
Methionine Complex, Copper Lysine Complex, Manganese Methionine Complex, Cobalt Glucoheptonate, Natural &
Artificial Flavoring, L-Ascorbyl 2-Polyphosphate (stabilized Vitamin C), Cayenne Powder, Selenium Yeast, Garlic Extract,
Anise Extract, Chinese Cassia Bark Extract, Ginger Extract, Horseradish, Juniper Extract, Naturally Preserved with Mixed
Tocopherols, Rosemary Extract, Ascorbic Acid & Citric Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Choline
Chloride, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine
Hydrochloride, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, D-Biotin, Folic Acid, Vitamin B-12 Supplement, Zinc Oxide,Manganous Oxide,
Ferrous Sulfate, Tribasic Copper Chloride, Ethylene Diamine Dihydroiodide, Cobalt Sulfate, Sodium Selenite.

 

[capayvalleychick]

On the Heritage thread someone said to get horse Manure and feed it to the chickens. It is supposed to make the feathers look better for a show.

I can see a lot of problems with that. mixing manure into feed is how we spread Mad Cow Disease.

I don't know where you saw that. The only people that I've read that recommend manure for chickens were talking about them eating the leftover grains in the manure.

Mad Cow Disease is not from manure in the feed. It is from animal tissue and bone meal, most likely brain or spinal cord tissue. Mad Cow Disease is a type of prion disease.

From the CDC:

Prion diseases or transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs) are a family of rare progressive neurodegenerative disorders that affect both humans and animals. They are distinguished by long incubation periods, characteristic spongiform changes associated with neuronal loss, and a failure to induce inflammatory response.
The causative agents of TSEs are believed to be prions. The term "prions" refers to abnormal, pathogenic agents that are transmissible and are able to induce abnormal folding of specific normal cellular proteins called prion proteins that are found most abundantly in the brain. The functions of these normal prion proteins are still not completely understood. The abnormal folding of the prion proteins leads to brain damage and the characteristic signs and symptoms of the disease. Prion diseases are usually rapidly progressive and always fatal.

 

[zooweemama]

The First ingredient is Soy. Sorry, a non starter for me.

Bummer. Same here. :\

ETA- yay glad someone posted the ingredients to UK. Not a fan of more corn- but everything else looks ok.

 

[cherylcohen]

According to the Manna Pro website, Brentwood Feed is supposed to have it (I think that I knew that), Alamo Feed and also Rhodies! That would be convenient for you, Cheryl!

THANKS

I have 2 bags to start with that hubby got when he went down to santa cruz (to pick up some new golf clubs) this last week. I talked him into stopping into a feed store for me.