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[chrissyr]

But I heartily recommend either the Foy's or the ADOR1 units.

Thank you for the great reviews

. I will check them out as well.

 

[CackleJoy]

This is way off the subject but we are having a central valley panic over hear. Wondering if anyone is awake and can offer advise.

We have a 9 month old, organically fed (Modesto Milling), free-range Buff Orpington with what appears to be a prolapse. Read the forum and the chicken chick. Gave her a really warm bath and when we got her out, the prolapsed area had disappeared. Her vent was still contracting so I don't know how long that will last. Went ahead and put honey around her vent as some said it helped reduce swelling. I did put a small amount of hibi-cleanse in the bath water. She is now in a box near the broody box so she can share the heat lamp.

Her lower feathers were dripping wet - that's what made me notice her in the first place. The prolapsed area was only about as big as my thumb from the knuckle out.

How do I know the difference between prolapse and a stuck egg? I did see her poop recently. Will a stuck egg prevent elimination?

I read all about the calcium deficiency problems with uterine contracting. That made sense to me (a student midwife) so I put after-birth tea in her water (helps a woman's uterus contract properly and is high in calcium from raspberry leaf) along with vitamin/mineral pack, apple cider vinegar and probiotics.

It's hard for me to imagine how she got a calcium deficiency since her food is such a high quality and we supplement with oyster shells.

What should I do now? I'm sure there is a different treatment for prolapse vs egg bound.

Thoughts, tips anyone? We really like our Orpingtons and hate to see her die so young.

It's too late for me to call anyone locally and we are not inclined to spend a lot of money on vet visits if this is going to be a recurring problem. We will just cull her from the flock if we have to. It's just not our first choice. We'd like to help her heal and have a happy egg-laying life!

I'm afraid to open her box and wake her up to check on her but I feel like the obsessed caregiver just now and really want to see if that thing fell back out.

 

[PetRock]

I'm sorry that you are going through that with your pullet. I wish that I had some advice for you but I've never had to deal with that. Did you post on the Emergencies/Diseases forum? It doesn't look like any of the more experienced chicken wranglers of this thread are on right now. I would post in the other forum and hopefully someone is still up and able to give you advice.

 

[Ali707]

This is way off the subject but we are having a central valley panic over hear.  Wondering if anyone is awake and can offer advise.

We have a 9 month old, organically fed (Modesto Milling), free-range Buff Orpington with what appears to be a prolapse.  Read the forum and the chicken chick.  Gave her a really warm bath and when we got her out, the prolapsed area had disappeared.  Her vent was still contracting so I don't know how long that will last.  Went ahead and put honey around her vent as some said it helped reduce swelling.  I did put a small amount of hibi-cleanse in the bath water.  She is now in a box near the broody box so she can share the heat lamp.  

Her lower feathers were dripping wet - that's what made me notice her in the first place.  The prolapsed area was only about as big as my thumb from the knuckle out.  

How do I know the difference between prolapse and a stuck egg?  I did see her poop recently.  Will a stuck egg prevent elimination? 

I read all about the calcium deficiency problems with uterine contracting.  That made sense to me (a student midwife) so I put after-birth tea in her water (helps a woman's uterus contract properly and is high in calcium from raspberry leaf) along with vitamin/mineral pack, apple cider vinegar and probiotics.  

It's hard for me to imagine how she got a calcium deficiency since her food is such a high quality and we supplement with oyster shells.

What should I do now?  I'm sure there is a different treatment for prolapse vs egg bound.

Thoughts, tips anyone?  We really like our Orpingtons and hate to see her die so young.

It's too late for me to call anyone locally and we are not inclined to spend a lot of money on vet visits if this is going to be a recurring problem.  We will just cull her from the flock if we have to.  It's just not our first choice.  We'd like to help her heal and have a happy egg-laying life!

I'm afraid to open her box and wake her up to check on her but I feel like the obsessed caregiver just now and really want to see if that thing fell back out.  

I am sorry and I know it is stressful when you have no clue what to do.

I am going to regurgitate things I have read on here but have no experience with.

Someone this week or last had a prolapse and the advice was to withhold food I believe for 24 hours. Keep in a segregated area nice and quiet. The withholding food had something to do with restricting egg production I believe. Darn my faulty memory.

Some people use Prep H also to help with retraction and shrinking.

I do have a question about the sopping wet feathers? Was that before or after the bath? If before it could br something called gleet but that usually has a strong odor associated with it. There can be swelling in the area and sometimes the feathers are wet looking.

If there is an egg stuck usually they are kind of in a trance trying to get it to pass. You might also be able to feel the egg if there is one in her lower abdomen between her legs. I am curious if she laid a shell less egg and that made her feathers wet?

They can recover from a prolapsed vent I understand but they need to let it heal a bit for the best chance. Too bad there isnt and off switch for egg production. It would be handy at times like this.

There just seems to be so many variables it could be anything it seems like. Maybe the real chicken pros are still awake and will speak up.

Good luck with this. If you read back in this thread a couple of hundred posts I am sure Ronott was the one that gave the advice aboutthe prolapse. (i think)

 

[CackleJoy]

Thank you, I did double post this. Sign of desperation maybe? The feathers thing was weird. I noticed it doing afternoon chores. Had to run to parent-teacher conferences. Came home to finish chores and take a second look at the girl with wet drawers and found the prolapse thingy. Not experienced here. Had to run in the house and google "My chicken's vent is inside out." SIGH. Maybe she did lay a shell-less egg. We don't have puddles for them to get into. All the other bums are perfectly fluffy. I know because I ran out and checked with the flash light. All the girls think I've lost my marbles.

 

[CackleJoy]

To clarify timing. Chicken in laying box FOREVER. I finally reached under her and got the 5 eggs she was hoarding. She leaves and I notice the wet feathers at about 5:00 p.m. Bath at 9:30 p.m. because I came home from PT conferences and found the problem but had to separate her, feed my family, nurse the baby twice, and then doctor (in my case, midwife) the chicken.

 

[CackleJoy]

My 13 year-old couldn't pass up the chance to put on his shirt sleeves and James Herriot hat for a bit of chicken doctoring. He's laughing at himself here. We had the lights off in the bathroom to help keep her calm. She seemed to enjoy the bath. ODD that.

 

[Happy Chooks]

Quote: Yes, that's normal. She's in position to lift herself up when needed so she doesn't smother the chicks as they hatch.

This is way off the subject but we are having a central valley panic over hear. Wondering if anyone is awake and can offer advise.

We have a 9 month old, organically fed (Modesto Milling), free-range Buff Orpington with what appears to be a prolapse. Read the forum and the chicken chick. Gave her a really warm bath and when we got her out, the prolapsed area had disappeared. Her vent was still contracting so I don't know how long that will last. Went ahead and put honey around her vent as some said it helped reduce swelling. I did put a small amount of hibi-cleanse in the bath water. She is now in a box near the broody box so she can share the heat lamp.

Her lower feathers were dripping wet - that's what made me notice her in the first place. The prolapsed area was only about as big as my thumb from the knuckle out.

How do I know the difference between prolapse and a stuck egg? I did see her poop recently. Will a stuck egg prevent elimination?

I read all about the calcium deficiency problems with uterine contracting. That made sense to me (a student midwife) so I put after-birth tea in her water (helps a woman's uterus contract properly and is high in calcium from raspberry leaf) along with vitamin/mineral pack, apple cider vinegar and probiotics.

It's hard for me to imagine how she got a calcium deficiency since her food is such a high quality and we supplement with oyster shells.

What should I do now? I'm sure there is a different treatment for prolapse vs egg bound.

Thoughts, tips anyone? We really like our Orpingtons and hate to see her die so young.

It's too late for me to call anyone locally and we are not inclined to spend a lot of money on vet visits if this is going to be a recurring problem. We will just cull her from the flock if we have to. It's just not our first choice. We'd like to help her heal and have a happy egg-laying life!

I'm afraid to open her box and wake her up to check on her but I feel like the obsessed caregiver just now and really want to see if that thing fell back out.

I've never had to deal with a prolapse myself, but I've read that some use Preparation H to help it retract. You want to keep her in the dark as much as possible to reduce the possibility of her laying an egg so soon. From what I've read, they can heal/recover from it.

As for egg bound, the symptoms of that would be walking like a penguin and no, she would not be able to eliminate waste, which is why it turns fatal so quickly. I don't think your girl is eggbound from what you are describing.

The wetness on her, could it have been a broken egg? Any smell associated with it?

 

[Happy Chooks]

14 wellies have hatched, and I have pips in 2 more eggs right now. Nothing on the remaining 6 eggs yet.

 

[MossyoakLane]

This is way off the subject but we are having a central valley panic over hear. Wondering if anyone is awake and can offer advise.

We have a 9 month old, organically fed (Modesto Milling), free-range Buff Orpington with what appears to be a prolapse. Read the forum and the chicken chick. Gave her a really warm bath and when we got her out, the prolapsed area had disappeared. Her vent was still contracting so I don't know how long that will last. Went ahead and put honey around her vent as some said it helped reduce swelling. I did put a small amount of hibi-cleanse in the bath water. She is now in a box near the broody box so she can share the heat lamp.

Her lower feathers were dripping wet - that's what made me notice her in the first place. The prolapsed area was only about as big as my thumb from the knuckle out.

How do I know the difference between prolapse and a stuck egg? I did see her poop recently. Will a stuck egg prevent elimination?

I read all about the calcium deficiency problems with uterine contracting. That made sense to me (a student midwife) so I put after-birth tea in her water (helps a woman's uterus contract properly and is high in calcium from raspberry leaf) along with vitamin/mineral pack, apple cider vinegar and probiotics.

It's hard for me to imagine how she got a calcium deficiency since her food is such a high quality and we supplement with oyster shells.

What should I do now? I'm sure there is a different treatment for prolapse vs egg bound.

Thoughts, tips anyone? We really like our Orpingtons and hate to see her die so young.

It's too late for me to call anyone locally and we are not inclined to spend a lot of money on vet visits if this is going to be a recurring problem. We will just cull her from the flock if we have to. It's just not our first choice. We'd like to help her heal and have a happy egg-laying life!

I'm afraid to open her box and wake her up to check on her but I feel like the obsessed caregiver just now and really want to see if that thing fell back out.

We had the exact same problem last week,sans wet butt.
We brought her into the kennel and started to withhold food around 7 or 8pm on Thursday. By the next morning the prolapse had gone back in. We went ahead and bathed her anyway. and continued to keep her in the dark to prevent laying. She still managed to start laying eggs again on Saturday. We checked her over and all was well. Sunday she was back with her flock.