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lawatt said:
I am SO new to all this, but i think "in progress" means a bunch of breeders are working on getting those colors/types to something that is reproducible with enough regularity and predictability to call it an actual established color/breed strain -- whereas a "project" is a smaller number of breeders, or maybe only one, trying to produce a single line of a color/type.  

I think i remember Walt aka @fowlman01
 saying in another thread that the marans breeders had a "trial" (i'm not sure what to call it?) at a recent poultry show to test whether one of the marans colors (it might have been white? or cuckoo? can't remember) was ready for an SOP -- but said there was still so much variability that they have more work to do.  

in other words, an SOP can't be established until there's a critical mass of birds that might conceivably meet it, over several generations of breeding, rather than just luck of getting a "right" bird here and there.  and so the colors without SOPs are still just too variable to describe in such a formal way as an SOP.

someone who knows more about showing and standards PLEASE correct me where i'm wrong!  just trying to piece this stuff together in my own head still... ?
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That is a great explanation. You need both numbers and enough birds close to your sop to qualify. To get them to look at you you have to have so many breeders working on that breed or color for (5?) Years. I have been following it with showgirls. Only white non bearded qualified out of the 4 potential colors we had enough birds for. It is hard with silkie subsets because its color and bearded/nonbearded. So that was 50 birds per color going to knottsville!it was madness.
 
Luvinmyhurd said:
It's official! I have a chick! :)
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The one that hatched is the one who pipped this am.

I think the one who pipped 24 hours ago may be needed help :/ it zipped a tiny bit of the way but hasn't mad any more progress.....
My humidity was probably too low until this afternoon. :( I got it up to 70 now.
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Huzzah!
 
chrissyr said:
I couldn't find the SOP for Marans with the Splash color so I looked for any breed with Splash (figuring it should be the same). I know certain color varieties aren't accepted yet in the APA, so I figured that's why it was hard for me to find. I honestly can't remember if Blues are accepted yet, but I think they are not.  I just wanted to see what anything said on the Splash coloring.
Thank you for the info. That sounds like she doesn't have a big fault then. I was just worried that it would be hard to breed out if it was a DQ. Her mom seems to have the same pattern as well. 
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the only Marans colors accepted by the APA are black copper, wheaten and white. There is a splash color description in the APA but only in Modern Game bantams. There are DQ's for color.

Walt
 
Luvinmyhurd said:
It's official! I have a chick!
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The one that hatched is the one who pipped this am.

I think the one who pipped 24 hours ago may be needed help
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it zipped a tiny bit of the way but hasn't mad any more progress.....

My humidity was probably too low until this afternoon.
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I got it up to 70 now.
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Congratulations on the hatch.

Wait until morning to see and help then. If it seems like it is having trouble, you can start helping now though. With the low humidity he may be stuck.
 
How big a dog carrier should I borrow for Saturday? I'd be getting, at most, 3 LF hens (I'll probably try to find started pullets, actually, but I figure I might as well estimate big...) When I got my current hens, I put 3 in a banana box with a lid, but that was less than a 10 minute drive--Ferndale's a little over 2 hours.
 
AmyPaperlady said:
How big a dog carrier should I borrow for Saturday? I'd be getting, at most, 3 LF hens (I'll probably try to find started pullets, actually, but I figure I might as well estimate big...) When I got my current hens, I put 3 in a banana box with a lid, but that was less than a 10 minute drive--Ferndale's a little over 2 hours.
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I use moving boxes. Two Large Fowl per box for a large box so two boxes. Put some pine shavings on the bottom.
 

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