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So I have 2 hens acting very lethargic. almost 2 years old. I'm leaning towards Cocci because #1 they were wormed in Dec, #2 everything is wet and damp #3 (2) egg bound hens at the same time seems wrong.
I'm going to separate them, and get a sample tonight. I will wait to treat for cocci since I will send it off.
questions are:
1. What's the withdrawal period for egg eating?
2. Do I send off the $10.50 with the form or wait till they bill me? I saw where they can bill but it sounded like just for shipping
No withdrawal from amprolium - it is a thiamine blocker, not an antiboitic. I've read that if you are allergic to sulfa drugs, you should not eat eggs from hens treated with amprolium.
 
:/ I just candled the eggs and it doesnt look promising. neither is moving inside the eggs and if i move the egg a little both embryos kinda swish back and forth which i dont think they are supposed to do. :/ im afraid to open them now
 
No withdrawal from amprolium - it is a thiamine blocker, not an antiboitic. I've read that if you are allergic to sulfa drugs, you should not eat eggs from hens treated with amprolium.
Thank you Happy Chooks. I have them in a separate pen now. I gave yogurt with crushed calcium tabs just in case. I will give Corid once they poop.
I let them out of the pen onto the grass and they were moving very slowly when everyone else was going crazy to forage. The one sat in one spot for about 4-5 minutes without even nibbling on the grass. So I know something is up. They were walking around some, but it doesn't look right.
The nice thing is they're in the new coop. It has asphalt under the rubber mats with some shavings down. It looks like they're at a big animal vet hospital they way they're set up, lol! When the horses are gone, the chickens get the good stuff.
 
I understand why people medicate. We each have different management styles. Early on I did all these things and I do have some skills saving birds, but I don't do it for my own birds. Once i figured out the Mareks thing I decided to stop medicating for anything. Mareks is everywhere, so it is much better to have birds that aren't affected by it....or that is my opinion. I have some very valuable birds here so i do care about what happens to them. They all have numbers....no names......and I do get that connection.

To save a bird, the first thing to do is to put it under a heat lamp and give it vitamins/electrolytes. Stress is the biggest killer of birds. If you take it to a vet make sure that vet is well known for knowing about birds. Most vets don't know know one end from the other but will take your money as they TRY to save the bird. I am a certified Calif poultry health inspector, so I am pretty good at identifying problems in chickens and other poultry. We are very fortunate here in Cali as we don't have a lot of problems other areas have.

Walt
Walt
How did you figure out the Mareks thing?
I agree its everywhere. I do not medicate at all really either. I want resistant , stout hardy birds.
Raising them healthy seems the best way, clean environment , good food , Acv , vitamins

when my chicks are young I throw a clump of dirt in the brooder. I figure they will get whats in the soil from the get go. If birds get sick they get moved under a red light with more vitamins and get rest. They get better or they don't but I have not had anything wide spread.
If they don't get better I put them down if they don't die on there own first.

The only thing I really try to give is Vetrex on the combs and wattles and feet .
 
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Walt
How did you figure out the Mareks thing?
I agree its everywhere. I do not medicate at all really either. I want resistant , stout hardy birds.
Raising them healthy seems the best way, clean environment , good food , Acv , vitamins

when my chicks are young I throw a clump of dirt in the brooder. I figure they will get whats in the soil from the get go. If birds get sick they get moved under a red light with more vitamins and get rest. They get better or they don't but I have not had anything wide spread.
If they don't get better I put them down if they don't die on there own first.

The only thing I really try to give is Vetrex on the combs and wattles and feet .
So I think my main problem is I have shavings outside too (and tan bark) and things stay really wet for a while. What is the best situation for outside runs? And how can you keep those clean? It just seems impossible. Inside is no problem
 
Best quote of the day DH: "um, do you plan on keeping the Baggie of poop?"
Me: "yes, I'm sending it off fedex tomorrow"
DH "oh " (no more questions and walks off
- I usually try not to let him see that stuff. Non poultry people just don't get it
 
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Quote: You can use a body temperature and a baby thermometer for people to make sure the thermometer is reading the correct temperature.

The Hygrometer can be tested by putting it outside you your porch and then checking the humidity on something like accuweather for your zip code.

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Does anyone have experience with EEs from Cackle Hatchery out of MO?
I have a friend with some coming next week and he has offered to share.
I bought Australorps from them The thing I like is that they do not pretend that they are Ameraucanas.

If you wanted nice blue egg layers, Chickee has culls that would be amazing!
 
Best quote of the day DH: "um, do you plan on keeping the Baggie of poop?"
Me: "yes, I'm sending it off fedex tomorrow"
DH "oh " (no more questions and walks off
- I usually try not to let him see that stuff. Non poultry people just don't get it


...reading your post and vigorously nodding my head up and down. Like when I told my DH not to open his favorite cooler last week because there was a dead chicken on ice in it.
 

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