California - Northern

[ronott1]

If they can only pass it on when they have symptoms and you can keep them from having symptoms thats fairly good. But I would only worry if you find you have a lethal mg. Most forms are not leathal and very mild. And most flocks in the us have one of these mild forms.

That is a very good point!

The best thing to do is to keep them healthy. @BCollie is working hard at that so I expect she will have good results.

 

[BCollie]

So do you guys think I should hold off on treating to see if they recover or how it progresses? Culling is something I really need to consider if this is a disease that would cause me to have to close my flock. I was talking to my girlfriend and she is right that it might be the best thing to do IF this is mg/lethal, especially if it is something that could be recurring. But the only way I will know what it is, is if I don't treat and see what happens, am I right?

 

[Hangtown Farms]

So do you guys think I should hold off on treating to see if they recover or how it progresses? Culling is something I really need to consider if this is a disease that would cause me to have to close my flock. I was talking to my girlfriend and she is right that it might be the best thing to do IF this is mg/lethal, especially if it is something that could be recurring. But the only way I will know what it is, is if I don't treat and see what happens, am I right?

first though you don't know what it is.

at the very least I would try Vetrex on the combs and wattles.
if anyone up there has Oxine you can try in a humidifier it will likely work

 

[BCollie]

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I don't know what it is, but I won't find out if I treat it, right?

 

[SpringPeeper]

I knew about needing to quarantine but had no way to, and I don't think this is caused by the new hen. I was not worried about her bringing in diseases as I knew where she was coming from. She exhibits zero symptoms. The first one to show symptoms was my Andalusian.
I will go to the store right now and get them some yogurt. I'll also put some electrolytes and probiotics in their water. I'll make sure to keep them away from the dogs so that they aren't stressed at all.
There's no way I can get the other dogs out. I really wish I could, but they are foster dogs for a rescue and have no other place to go.

What do I treat them with if I can't find Tylan at a local feed store tomorrow?


I have no way to! I wish I did, but there is absolutely nothing I can do to get them away from the healthy ones. The only way I can separate them is just with some chicken wire but even then they are still able to have direct contact with the sick ones because they'll be in the same yard. I have foster dogs that will hurt them if they are kept in the other yard. There's no way I can separate them, I don't even have a spare bathroom in the house to keep them in.

Then keep them in your non-spare bathroom. It's temporary, and an emergency. I can't imagine that there is literally absolutely nothing you can do at all to keep them safer.

If they can only pass it on when they have symptoms and you can keep them from having symptoms thats fairly good. But I would only worry if you find you have a lethal mg. Most forms are not leathal and very mild. And most flocks in the us have one of these mild forms.

Keep this in mind. Don't panic, don't make rash decisions, but definitely take steps to protect other flock members.

So do you guys think I should hold off on treating to see if they recover or how it progresses? Culling is something I really need to consider if this is a disease that would cause me to have to close my flock. I was talking to my girlfriend and she is right that it might be the best thing to do IF this is mg/lethal, especially if it is something that could be recurring. But the only way I will know what it is, is if I don't treat and see what happens, am I right?

If the eyes are bubbling, I think it is something that is beyond wait and see, but maybe others will disagree. It sounds like it is progressing quickly from what you've described.

Before you decide to cull your pets so you can get new birds, make sure you know what you're actually dealing with. I'll pass the info you have along to my mother so she can keep a close eye on the bird she has from you.

 

[chiqita]

The only way to tell is have a dead bird. Eye is bubbling so you know its resp. Id treat.

 

[ronott1]

Then keep them in your non-spare bathroom. It's temporary, and an emergency. I can't imagine that there is literally absolutely nothing you can do at all to keep them safer.

Keep this in mind. Don't panic, don't make rash decisions, but definitely take steps to protect other flock members.
If the eyes are bubbling, I think it is something that is beyond wait and see, but maybe others will disagree. It sounds like it is progressing quickly from what you've described.

Before you decide to cull your pets so you can get new birds, make sure you know what you're actually dealing with. I'll pass the info you have along to my mother so she can keep a close eye on the bird she has from you.

Treat them and separate them. The spare bed room is a good idea.

The only way to tell is have a dead bird. Eye is bubbling so you know its resp. Id treat.

Yes, treat. Keep up with the vitamins and etc.

If the birds are already resistant, they will not die even from the bad MG. They could still be carriers so it would be a good idea to have one tested if it dies.

UCD will bill you for shipping if you use their Fedex number. It has cost $18.00 before. If you send one in, use Kathy's thread to get the low down and start saving to pay the cost. You will not have to pay it up front.

 

[BCollie]

Thanks.
There is no spare bedroom, no spare bathroom, nothing. I live in a tiny guest house. And I can't have chickens in my bathroom, we have company that is going to be here for a few days. I'm going to look into keeping them in the garage, but that will have to wait until tomorrow. I now have only two that are not showing any symptoms, a Speckled Sussex and the Tolbunt Polish. It is spreading and getting worse very quickly. I will put them in the garage tomorrow if I can get some type of fencing set up to confine them. I should be able to.

So if I treat it, and they all recover, how will I know if it is MG or not? I need to know if I can still incubate, bring new birds into the flock, etc.

 

[Hangtown Farms]

The only way to tell is have a dead bird. Eye is bubbling so you know its resp. Id treat.

agree I do think a oxine solution in a humidifier may help

 

[Kaylish]

@BCollie really sorry to hear about your birds. I agree with SpringPeeper do WHATEVER you can to separate your healthy birds from the sick, even if it means bringing your 2 healthy ones into your bathroom overnight untill you can figure something out. Hopefully it'll be something mild and they'll all recover quickly.