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Someone told me orp so don't lay well. Is that true?


You'd think so but I've been incredibly surprised by just how well they've laid. I figured big bird like that, you get maybe 2-4 eggs per hen per week, like you get with Cornish and other such heavy birds. Nope... 5 hens and we were getting 3-5 eggs per day when they started laying. They've
slowed a little now but we're still getting 3-4 per day, the least we've gotten so far was 2 in the same day.

Of course this is regarding the English Orps... regualr production Orps always give 5-7 eggs a week on average.
 
look at the post above--It has instructions for using spinosad(elector) on chickens. Some have had great results with elector after lots of failure with other treatments.

elector has instructions for using it on label for poultry. As I recall, the concentrate can be used systemically(drops on the vent). That would be mostly for mites though.

ivermectin will only work on blood sucking pests. If the hens have feather shaft lice, it will not work since they do not feed on the blood.

Ok, I'll skip the ivermectin then. I notice the information you posted on Elector has no withdrawal time for eggs though. I am kind of leery of this cause I used Frontline on my hens last Fall & then I found out that the withdrawal time is actually 200 days! I'll see if I can find any info on withdrawal time but thanks!
 
Ok, I'll skip the ivermectin then. I notice the information you posted on Elector has no withdrawal time for eggs though. I am kind of leery of this cause I used Frontline on my hens last Fall & then I found out that the withdrawal time is actually 200 days! I'll see if I can find any info on withdrawal time but thanks!
Elector has been approved for use in poultry so it has been studied-- if it says no withdrawl, then there is no withdrawl for it.

Most of the stuff we use on poultry has not been approved so we really do not know and are guessing.
 

look at the post above--It has instructions for using spinosad(elector) on chickens. Some have had great results with elector after lots of failure with other treatments.

elector has instructions for using it on label for poultry. As I recall, the concentrate can be used systemically(drops on the vent). That would be mostly for mites though.

ivermectin will only work on blood sucking pests. If the hens have feather shaft lice, it will not work since they do not feed on the blood.


Regarding ivermectin and lice... For years I've been telling people that it doesn't work, but my peafowl buddies kept insisting that it worked for them, so I thought I try it again. Two weeks ago I treated one peacock and three chicken hens. The next day the peacock's lice were gone, and the following day the three hens were clean. Today I tried it again... hen is 2.5 kg and was given 1.87 mg (1/10 cc of ivermectin horse paste). All doses were ivermectin paste, so all were given orally.

-Kathy
 
Regarding ivermectin and lice... For years I've been telling people that it doesn't work, but my peafowl buddies kept insisting that it worked for them, so I thought I try it again. Two weeks ago I treated one peacock and three chicken hens. The next day the peacock's lice were gone, and the following day the three hens were clean. Today I tried it again... hen is 2.5 kg and was given 1.87 mg (1/10 cc of ivermectin horse paste). All doses were ivermectin paste, so all were given orally.

-Kathy
That is good news. You never know when or where it will work, but it is less likely to work since lice feed off of dead skin.

Great article here:

http://www.the-chicken-chick.com/2012/08/poultry-lice-and-mites-identification.html

It does not mention ivermectin but does have elector psp as a treatment.
 
I went out to feed and water the animals and the geese were just down right NASTY so I looked around and found some Party Animals under the porch
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I will wait but I believe she only had four eggs to start with
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I went out to feed and water the animals and the geese were just down right NASTY so I looked around and found some Party Animals under the porch
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My first glimpse at the new attractions
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But with a little look see I found some more
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I will wait but I believe she only had four eggs to start with
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Nice!
 
Elector has been approved for use in poultry so it has been studied-- if it says no withdrawl, then there is no withdrawl for it.

Most of the stuff we use on poultry has not been approved so we really do not know and are guessing.

Thank you, I checked out the manufacturer's website & it looks pretty good. Although they do say it's applied to chickens for mites, not lice, but hopefully it will work on the lice as well. My poor hens are not happy campers, so hopefully something will work better than the permethrin.

After I clean & spray the coop I am planning to paint it, too, so I can better see any critters that might show up again. We have really had a hard time with pests in the past year or so.
 
Thank you, I checked out the manufacturer's website & it looks pretty good. Although they do say it's applied to chickens for mites, not lice, but hopefully it will work on the lice as well. My poor hens are not happy campers, so hopefully something will work better than the permethrin.

After I clean & spray the coop I am planning to paint it, too, so I can better see any critters that might show up again. We have really had a hard time with pests in the past year or so.
I hope you get them all!

It takes three treatments, 7 days apart. Spinosad will kill mites, lice, fleas and etc.
 
Quote: I've probably posted hundreds of posts saying it doesn't work, which when I gave smaller amounts it did not work, but a little more seems to do the trick. Some pigeon people give 1 mg/kg, so that's what I decided to try, and so far it does seem to kill all types of poultry lice, though it can take a little longer to get the some of them. The hen I treated today looks like she had several species of them, so I'll check her daily until I see that all are gone, then I'll report back here.

Lice like these are gone in 24-48 hours:

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-Kathy
 

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