It will be hard getting them recognized by the APA, they are trying to do the Large Fowl Marans now, quite the process to getting it done, and it takes a couple of years with them being shown, for the Marans it was something like 5 breeders for each color and they had to have raised them for 5 years, then they have to show 2 of each at certain shows, meaning 2 Roosters, 2 Hens, 2 Cockrels and 2 Pullets, in order for them to qualify, then after there are so many shows meeting those qualifications and I think they have to be recorded for each show, then they have to do a show with 50 birds present and that is for each color variety, with Large Fowl Marans they did Black Coppers first and are still having issues with getting them accepted, in the meantime they are still continuing with the other colors, for each color it takes 2 years, its more of a combined effort with all Club Members trying to follow the Colors being worked on and shown so that the numbers are there for each feather color, and that is what it will take to do the Penedesencas too, so this may be something we get into down the road for the Penedesencas, right now I don't think anyone has been breeding them that long, if so very few people. I'm sure Barry of Feathersite would be one and LuAnn may be another, Jerry Poole, possibly a few others that have been breeding them for some length of time, pretty sure there has to be 5 breeders and for 5 years per each feather color, I'll get mine going once I get a Rooster to work with for the Blacks, as far as showing, until there would be the numbers to make a concerted effort I'll raise them to get numbers of them up. We'll have to make a combined effort to get them APA approved, so someone will have to make a list of who has what feather color variety and how long they have been breeding them to even begin to see where the numbers are and of which feather color variety, maybe there are more Partridge or Wheatens in circulation for a longer period of time, you'll have to figure out what is already in numbers and whose been breeding them for how long to see first if there are 5 breeders of a certain feather color for 5 years and then go from there with planning on the showing of the other colors, hope I am making sense on what I'm trying to get accross, its possible, it will just take a combined effort, just one person showing isn't going to be enough to get anything accomplished. The Marans group had members list what color varietys of them they had and how long they had been breeding those color varietys to start with.