My brothers neighbor has about 20 RIR's they are about 24 to 25 weeks. He hasn't heard and crowing yet but he hasn't gotten eggs either. I think the has a secret nest someplace. He never put fake eggs or golf balls in their nest box. I looked for pointed hackle and saddle feathers but they are really skittish so I didn't get a very good look. Going back over there today but I don't know much about RIR I have SS,s Wellies and and EE. Any help would be great! Thanks!