Cap and Trade Bill?? What the heck is it?

[cmjust0]

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I guess I just don't get how Cap & Trade is "controlling every aspect of our lives."

For the record, I'm not sure anybody would go on record as being in favor of over-regulating, over-spending, and over-taxing. I wouldn't.

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I dunno...I've found this thread to be pretty interesting. Lots of various viewpoints being discussed, and nobody's gotten nasty or anything..

I'm rather proud of us..

 

[karl lutz]

I will admit my view points are what many perceive as radical. This government is much too big. It is in our lives too deeply. Cap and trade is just an example of how government steals from business. The law will not change anything in the enviroment and all of the people involved know it. You cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that global warming exists let alone that it is man made or that the law will altert it.

 

[Goose and Fig]

I think somebody mentioned it way back in the thread, so forgive me for repeating.

If you do or don't support cap & trade- call your representative. That's what they are there for. It's their JOB. If a majority fo their of their constituents are opposed to something- they will not vote for it. Even if you just have questions about it- contact their office, go to a public meeting, whatever.

Sitting around and complaining about it isn't taking advantage of our democracy.

 

[cmjust0]

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They're creating carbon credits and allowing them to be traded among corporations with the free market determining the price.. The government isn't charging for carbon credits, either.. So, if a company goes over on their carbon emissions, they'll have to buy credits them from another company who leftover credits as a result of not releasing so much carbon.. They won't be buying them from the government..

At the end of the day, cap & trade simply creates a framework within which companies with less of a negative environmental impact will enjoy a competitive advantage over those who are bigger polluters.

So, what exactly is the government stealing there?

I'm hoping you're the one who can tell me, since a lot of people seem to say it yet no one thus far has been able to explain it to me after they say it. I'm really starting to think that most folks are just repeating what they hear other people saying without ever asking for any type of explanation.

 

[Goose and Fig]

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They're creating carbon credits and allowing them to be traded among corporations with the free market determining the price.. The government isn't charging for carbon credits, either.. So, if a company goes over on their carbon emissions, they'll have to buy credits them from another company who leftover credits as a result of not releasing so much carbon.. They won't be buying them from the government..

At the end of the day, cap & trade simply creates a framework within which companies with less of a negative environmental impact will enjoy a competitive advantage over those who are bigger polluters.

So, what exactly is the government stealing there?

I'm hoping you're the one who can tell me, since a lot of people seem to say it yet no one thus far has been able to explain it to me after they say it. I'm really starting to think that most folks are just repeating what they hear other people saying without ever asking for any type of explanation.

Yeah, I know- that's why I had to walk away for a bit. Felt like I was talking to a brick wall. I tried to offer "unbiased" information and was replied to with malarchy.
I have 7 baby puppies next to me, so I can't possibly argue anymore.

 

[redhen]

All i know is...if its going to cost me more money, i want NO part of it.

 

[Q9]

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Since I don't like Oreos should I assume all cookies are bad?

I've never had a 'gooberment' run power company. I've also never had a government run power company. I have however, seen firsthand what happened when you deregulate power companies and it wasn't pretty.

I know corporations are all about the bottom line, and I know if it cuts into their profit margin they don't have my best interests at heart. So why should I assume they will do the right thing if the big bad 'gooberment' just gets out of their business and stops making them do the right thing?

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Find a good workable solution to the problem of radioactive waste (hint - dropping it in the ocean doesn't qualify as a good solution) and I'll cease my only objection to nuclear power.

There are actually a lot of good ideas. My three favorites are:
1. Bury it in steel containers.
2. Dump it on some forsaken mountain in the Nevada desert.
3. Dump it in Los Angeles. I really doubt the residents would notice a few more mutants.

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This thread has survived for 21 pages?!

Well, now I've seen everything.

 

[The Chicken Lady]

I am actually pretty surprised, myself, Q9. Good job, guys. Keep it up.

*Notice that the Staff keeps political threads open when everyone plays nice and discusses things civilly and intellectually...*

 

[cmjust0]

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Some say it will cost you more, but some say it will save you money in the long run.

Personally, I'm inclined to believe that making any given process more efficient tends to drive prices down in the long run.. Only makes sense, afterall.

 

[GrayDragon]

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As a former resident of LA, don't go there. Just don't. You'd be offending and screaming bloody murder if I started making remarks about 'Deliverance' and people in south.

Do unto others as you'd have done unto you.