"Changes to child labor laws hurt farmers."

[Royd]

The OWS mess is the result of child labor laws. By the time a child reaches the age of 16, he/she has lost 5 of the most formative years, in regards to motivation, teamwork, dedication to a project, and a basic understanding of the concept of capital. I work, I get paid. I could probably think of more, but this is a starter. Feel free to add to the list.

 

[Royd]

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so the parent should follow the kid to work every day? Or if the kid gets hurt, to find out "oh well there is no requirement to train the kid"

How about we don't require teens to pass a driving test After all, there parents should look out for them and make sure that they are safe drivers.
Or require that they attend school? Their parents can make sure that they learn everything that they need

Please give us a brief history of your work life, just for reference sake. In my opinion, the worst thing that has happened to America's youth is the Child Labor Laws.

 

[HLAC]

300 children a year.. including accidents such as snowmobiling and atvs, falling off a or horse or falling out of the hayloft that your parents told you a million times to stay out of.

Clearly, small family type farms and rural living is dangerous and should be outlawed by the government. Let the big coporate farms take over, supply us and keep us and our children safe. No more worrying about get your eye pecked out by a rooster or getting getting those annoying bits of straw stuck in your skin. Sure, kids who made some money, learned work ethic and responsibilty by throwing hay bales, mucking out stalls, detasseling corn or feeding some chickens will be a thing of the past... but you, know... it's a good trade off. Safety and all!!!

Next we need to get rid of bicycles, swimming pools, 5 gallon buckets and any contact sports.

 

[turney31]

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Michael Johnson, my best friends brother, A teen was killed in a grain elevator accident in El Campo Texas 1970 something!

Brian Chappell, my cousin, lost an arm at the elbow in an auger. He is deaf and didn't hear the warning!

My family were rice and milo farmers!

 

[Stephanie739]

mom'sfolly :

I did not state an opinion. I do not have a horse in this race. I don't know enough about the pending rules to comment, or devise an opinion.....

You can look at the NIOSH site if you prefer. I did not link to it because it was pages of documents.

I don't know why you guys are going after me. I did not state any opinion on the pending rules, I just tried to answer a single, very specific question. I also added a story....sorry!

Im sorry! I didn't mean to sound like I went in attack mode. I thought you were telling your stories because you believed farms are dangerous. Your stories aren't funny...sounds very painful! My friend fell from the monkey bars when she was a child and nearly bit off the end of her tongue. Painful indeed, but certainly not a justifiable reason to ban monkey bars.​

 

[Stephanie739]

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Michael Johnson, my best friends brother, A teen was killed in a grain elevator accident in El Campo Texas 1970 something!

Brian Chappell, my cousin, lost an arm at the elbow in an auger. He is deaf and didn't hear the warning!

My family were rice and milo farmers!

How many teens die in auto accidents? Should we ban automobiles from teens? They might....
How many adults die in auto accidents? Think about it.
I'm sorry about your losses.

 

[Stephanie739]

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He who controls the food supply, controls everything.

 

[turney31]

Steph739...I am sorry but I don't think it is a relative comparison.

 

[they'reHISchickens]

As a parent of 5 now grown children who worked at family and neighbors farms from a very early age, I can see both sides. Mine worked mostly just for fun until they were 15, then for wages. The boys stacked hay as soon as they were big enough to *help*. My youngest began milking occasionally at 12-13 and by 16 was in charge of a dairy herd during the farmer's vacation. I questioned that, but the owner said they trusted her judgment totally. I couldn't say much because at 12 i was helping my dad milk at least 3 hours every day and by 15 was also in charge of herd health and calves.
The parent is ultimately responsible for placing the child in a safe environment. But what we lose by totally prohibiting their involvement is much more on the big scale of life than what we save by keeping all children in a safety net, sheltered from any and all possible harm. Accidents happen no matter how careful we are at any age. One major way we learn to be careful is through experience. If a child has not experienced HAVING to be careful because of a dangerous situation, he is not going to believe any adult -- or government-- that tells him there is danger! We all know young people already consider themselves indestructible. I think the life situations that farm-oriented children experience growing up makes them much more aware of life's dangers in every form.
BTW, not one of mine would exchange their farm experiences for any other way of life and all wish they could continue in farming, but economically, it's just not possible.

It is sad that the government is so involved with a segment of population that is less than 2% of the population and growing smaller year by year. Make me wonder sometimes if this all isn't really a plot to make us dependent on big business farming. Another reason to keep chickens and a cow.

 

[zzGypsy]

I don't have kids, but I've got nieces and nephews. I guess if they come stay over the summer, I can't pay them for chores like tossing hay over the fence to my sheep. the way I read it, that would be prohibited by the new regulations under "working with livestock".

well, I'm just feeling like we're All So Much Better Off now. Finally, they're safe from farm chores.

I wonder if they are permitted to feed the sheep if I don't pay them...