Chicken Genetics Blog

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I'm honored that you'd read it!
I love turkey genetics though I'm not as proficient with them as with chickens.
I'd like to make posts but there's just no way I could cover it as thoroughly as Franz and Kevin. I don't have enough pictures either.
I'd just be parroting them.
Meanwhile, no chicken genetics resource on the internet has been satisfactory for me so that's where my posts come in.
Maybe I should start a website, but that would mean asking for permission for pictures that I don't own...

So this is definitely Db Ginger
Silver ginger with autosomal red.
Autosomal red is another way of saying red on a silver and I've never seen the genetics explained in a way I actually believe. I don't believe Sigrid on this matter and I don't believe Brian Reeder.

Anyway, some are just regular silver ginger, so the gene Ginger on a Duckwing base, but the black tailed white is definitely Ginger on a Wheaten base. It's strange how your original rooster does not look Ginger at all, aside from a few white breast feathers. It's supposed to be a dominant gene.

According to Nicalandia, a silver breast area on a Duckwing female may indicate the bird is heterozygous for Partridge

I agree that no chicken genetics website I have found has been very helpful. I would love to see a chicken genetics calculator that is comparable to Kevin Porter's turkey calculator, that includes pictures of the chick down colors. I agree that you should start a website and create your own chicken color calculator. I would use it all the time. lol

I had originally posted my birds to a Fb genetics group and just wasn't convinced that Db was involved. Just because the rooster doesn't really look Db and we had never encountered it before in the hen's previous offspring with other roosters. But I had never seen a picture of a silver ginger bird before either, so thank you all for being so illuminating. Anyway, mystery solved on my odd-looking silver duckwings.

Which bird are you saying is silver ginger on a wheaten base? This one?

We have put this rooster over her this year, which would be her father.

I will post pictures when I get chicks from them.

 

[KF0002]

My washed out silver Phoenix hens.

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If I didn't already have so many irons in the fire, I would get some silver duckwing phoenix! They are so lovely!

 

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@Amer could you help me out on the genotypes for that pair? Just silver duckwing with Db on the rooster? But then how would you write out the pullet's genotype?

 

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Is this it? Pardon me for being so needy. lol

(Ignore how many tabs I have open.)

 

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Thank you for your wonderful genetics thread! I feel as though I am among my people here and on Porters Turkey Color 101 group.

 

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Is this it? Pardon me for being so needy. lol

(Ignore how many tabs I have open.)

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I use this one. http://kippenjungle.nl/breeds/crossbreeds.html

 

[KF0002]

I use this one. http://kippenjungle.nl/breeds/crossbreeds.html

As if it couldn't get more complicated. lol Thank you for sharing that. I just have to figure out how to change the leg color and junk now. Awesome (I say as my brain sizzles a little).

 

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They're Old Bloodlines I found. I got two different sources, but he's from the original I got back in 2021.

Glad to see there is at least one more genetics enthusiast who is passionate about preserving old lines of Gamefowl. We have several lines we have preserved for many many years. The silver duckwing greys I just posted about that are throwing silver gingers are an old line of "Regular Gray" from Robert Harvey. Deadend Greys as he calls them. Your birds are really nice by the way!

 

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Found a couple of old pictures from two of our original silver duckwing American Gamefowl. No Db is these birds I don't think, but I'm thinking the hen had maybe a split wheaten, split duckwing base? @Amer

 

[Amer]

that includes pictures of the chick down colors.

Oh no! Even I don't understand the chick down colors.
That's the difference between book learning and experience. There are no resources online that really help me with down color so I just don't know it.
Porter has handled almost every turkey gene out there.

I would love to see a chicken genetics calculator that is comparable to Kevin Porter's turkey calculator, that includes pictures of the chick down colors. I agree that you should start a website and create your own chicken color calculator.

I could never create a chicken color calculator better than Henk's...
I'm not a coder, that's for sure.
But I'd like to have something like this but more organized and detailed
https://www.kippenjungle.nl/chickengenetics/mutations1.html

Is this it? Pardon me for being so needy. lol

(Ignore how many tabs I have open.)

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Yeah.
I don't know whether your birds are homozygous or heterozygous for their bases but that is about right.

Thank you for your wonderful genetics thread! I feel as though I am among my people here and on Porters Turkey Color 101 group.

I love Porters Turkey Color 101!