Chicken killing Fox!!!! HELP!!

[happyfrenchman]

Yeah, we scared off the OP early on. She had a fox that she did not want to kill.... pretty much the experts all told her she had to kill it or give up chickens. For it's own good apparently. Maybe she will just give up chickens.
I find discussing legalities on here is always tricky. People from California will tell you something is illegal (which it might be for them) but it might be legal in Georgia or Oklahoma. The legal advice is almost always not applicable.

Ethics .... I don't understand how the same people who will expend hours and days caring for a chicken or even a chick that should have been culled on day one..... think nothing of dropping a raccoon or possum or fox into a bucket of water to drown him......or flogging them to death with a hose!!!? Really?

This kind of advice might not be encouraging to novice chicken people.

I think it comes down to a basic lack of understanding and dare I say it? Lack of respect for wild animals. If you think you are somehow helping them out (as a species) by killing them (for doing what comes naturally). As a chicken owner, you have to protect your chickens, but that should not make you the arbiter of death for any other creature that might want a chicken dinner. Sometimes sure... but not always. I don't kill wild things unless I have to. I do not care what any self appointed monitors or experts say....

Releasing it to the wild (I am not talking about letting it loose 2 miles down the road at your neighbors place...) is not a guaranteed disaster as some rather outrageous claims have been made about it being worse than torture or baking to death in the hot sun.... really??? really? What kind of nonsense is that? No wonder the OP never came back.

 

[chickens really]

Yeah, we scared off the OP early on. She had a fox that she did not want to kill.... pretty much the experts all told her she had to kill it or give up chickens. For it's own good apparently. Maybe she will just give up chickens.
I find discussing legalities on here is always tricky. People from California will tell you something is illegal (which it might be for them) but it might be legal in Georgia or Oklahoma. The legal advice is almost always not applicable.

Ethics .... I don't understand how the same people who will expend hours and days caring for a chicken or even a chick that should have been culled on day one..... think nothing of dropping a raccoon or possum or fox into a bucket of water to drown him......or flogging them to death with a hose!!!? Really?

This kind of advice might not be encouraging to novice chicken people.

I think it comes down to a basic lack of understanding and dare I say it? Lack of respect for wild animals. If you think you are somehow helping them out (as a species) by killing them (for doing what comes naturally). As a chicken owner, you have to protect your chickens, but that should not make you the arbiter of death for any other creature that might want a chicken dinner. Sometimes sure... but not always. I don't kill wild things unless I have to. I do not care what any self appointed monitors or experts say....

Releasing it to the wild (I am not talking about letting it loose 2 miles down the road at your neighbors place...) is not a guaranteed disaster as some rather outrageous claims have been made about it being worse than torture or baking to death in the hot sun.... really??? really? What kind of nonsense is that? No wonder the OP never came back.

In all honesty we moved into the animals territory and there for at the mercy of all predators. They are only doing what they need to survive. . Anyways..

 

[Lady J]

I wish I had some words of wisdom, but I have nothing to add to what's already been offered. I just wanted to express my sympathy for your loss. I am still mourning over one! I can't imagine losing several all at once. Horrible. So very sorry.

 

[llombardo]

If you put a electric wire around the top of the fence it only works if whatever touches it is standing on the ground.
This is how I have my wires.
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There is actually a two wire system so that you can have hot and groubd ran around the top. I'm pretty sure I have got it, but have not been able to test it.

 

[cmom]

I don't know how you would ground the top wire? My brother had a hot wire around his horse pasture but to get a shock somehow there has to be a complete connection. I got a good shock from his when I touched it but I was standing on the ground. I don't know how it would work for a fence climber. I'll have to research it.

 

[Radian]

I don't know how you would ground the top wire? My brother had a hot wire around his horse pasture but to get a shock somehow there has to be a complete connection. I got a good shock from his when I touched it but I was standing on the ground. I don't know how it would work for a fence climber. I'll have to research it.

A two wire system uses a hot wire (like normal fence setup) and then a second wire that is intentionally grounded (with a stake etc). You then run them far enough apart that whatever animal you are targeting can complete the circuit with its body. You do want to be sure that if you use tape type fencing it's not able to short in a breeze. This works well for electrifying the sides of buildings, tops of fences, or other places critters sneak in.

 

[MrDankYT]

i'd shoot the ****er and skin it put it on my wall but ya know whatever floats your boat

 

[happyfrenchman]

I do not have an electric fence, but I used to be an aircraft electrician. You can make all of your fencing, hardware cloth, chicken wire, screen or whatever you have, into the negative circuit, so that all you really need to do is string the hot wires, String the hot wires wherever you like, but the base coop wiring serves as the ground.You have to hook the ground to the closest hardware cloth, and then "bond" , (tie together with wire jumpers), all the metal fencing that you want to be ground.... say a raccoon climbs up your wire, the first hot wire he comes across, he is clinging to the "ground".... so he is going to be stopped. . To fasten a jumper, Take two large zinc washer, one on each side of the wire... run a bolt through it from outside, and a nut (on inside) Tighten this til it is securely gripping the fence...Fasten your "jumper wire to this, and to a identical connector on the next panel of wire.... Bond all your screens together.... Now your hot wire will be adjacent to a grounded section wherever it goes. You can still use a two wire (ground and hot) coming off it if you want to. You can originate any of your grounds from any bonded screen. It is a far better and more secure method than two wires, which can, if done correctly, make a very serviceable system as well.

 

[cmom]

A two wire system uses a hot wire (like normal fence setup) and then a second wire that is intentionally grounded (with a stake etc). You then run them far enough apart that whatever animal you are targeting can complete the circuit with its body. You do want to be sure that if you use tape type fencing it's not able to short in a breeze. This works well for electrifying the sides of buildings, tops of fences, or other places critters sneak in.

 

[sweetpea123]

Had a fox try taking one of my girls this week. Does talk radio really work in keeping them away? I only free range while I near them, but I was cleaning out the coop when it attacked.

I've only heard of that with skunks under houses, but maybe foxes too? They would probably get used to it though would be my guess