Chicken owner charged after shooting dog.

[EweSheep]

Keni*Sue :

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IM WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!!

Reading your website, I can tell you are young. Wait until you get a little older, you will understand what we mean by all those comments. Once you have your chickens killed again and again by dogs that are not yours, you will find a way to dispose of them. I agree with IggyMom.

Iggy, never come between two fighting dogs or any dogs on a prey drive! Nasty business to get in the middle of it!

They would outwin you every time until you get a cold water high pressured fireman driven HOSE!

 

[flakey chick]

Keeping an open mind: I'm just interested in hearing how it turns out. We all think we have a good idea of what happened (including me)- but that has many different versions. Those of us who have been following closely know he DID TRY TO SHOO it away with a pellet gun, but the dog still wouldn't leave. THEN he got a bigger gun and killed it. Any dog that won't leave when shot at is a SERIOUS threat- livestock or no.

In my version of probable reality, the chicken owner was defending his property and within his rights, but I can't be sure. I don't KNOW what happened. For example, it could be that he chased the dog a long ways off his property shooting at it recklessly etc. I want to hear his side of the story and see how it turns out.

This type of situation does make me so upset with lazy dog owners. We don't have enough time at home to have dogs or cats. That's why we got chickens as pets. Dogs without owners willing to spend the time and effort on them become the biggest nuisances/threats.

 

[crait]

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No, but I do know they covered on how the dog was killed but said nothing about any chicken deaths. Why would they say the dog got killed but not any chickens? Because it didn't happen. Also, have you ever heard of a dog that can just get through a fence in a minute? I never have. He had plenty of time. Enough time to go get more than one kind of gun and probably load them and get the dogs. And you know what? It said he shood the dog he killed and it was running away already but then he shot and killed it. Hmmm... What else?

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Reading what website? On any of the sites that you read did it say where my chicken was killed by a dog? Or where I have had losses of chickens and close encounters to loosing more because of predators? It's not something I like to share or I like to be proud of so I don't boast it. So, saying that I'm too young to know what it feels like to loose something dear to my heart or someone I love is just plain ignorant and offensive.

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And when I said shoo, that doesn't mean use your hands. Of course you don't shoo a dog away you don't know with your hands. You'll get bit. You can use a big stick but it seems like he had enough time to go and get two different guns and probably load them too. And you know what? It said he shood the dog he killed and it was running away already but then he shot and killed it. That doesn't ever seem right to me. Now, if the dog had come back for more... Then maybe.

 

[Brindlebtch]

I PERSONALLY have had a dog that has chewed through a fence to get to her chosen prey. She has also removed boards from a 6 ft wooden fence to get her chosen prey.

When she was after something NOTHING would stop her except a full body tackle (or being shot dead) and being bodily dragged away from her chosen prey. She was great with people and kids. Anything with fur, feathers or scales was a potential target.

When we had this dog we had to be on the alert all the time and were very very lucky she never actually laid her mouth on somebody else's animal and we worked VERY HARD to make sure she never did. You would have never known she was like that unless you actually saw her in full prey drive. Then, basically, she was a monster. You could have beaten her with a stick and shooed her for all you were worth and she would have ignored you completely. She was a big scary looking dog so you wouldn't have reached for her collar (even though she would not have bitten you, but you wouldn't know that, would you).

Only ONCE in 12 long years did she get out of our yard and chase another dog down the street. That once was one time too many! We were very grateful that we did not get sued or have to put her down, even though no one was injured. Lucky for us she was old and slow and had a serious heart problem or that dog she was chasing would have had serious injuries and we would have been in big trouble.

I support Mr. Harris 100%.

Just because you have had little fluffies or benign dogs doesn't mean the monster kind don't exist. I know 2 golden retrievers that killed another golden ret. with no observable provocation and the owner couldn't get them separated. Some goldens are fully capable of acting like monster dogs.

 

[Q9]

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IM WITH YOU ALL THE WAY!!!

Oh gosh. Shooed the dog away. Have you ever seen a dog in full prey drive? They do not 'shoo' believe me. They go completely insane.

Keni Sue, you are a nice person, but when your beloved chickens get attacked and killed (or frightened to death) by a marauding dog, you may well change your mind. Seriously.

It really is devastating. Horrible.

The last time it happened to me, not only did I lose a number of chickens, I was injured myself in an effort to, well, shoo them away.

I seem to be involved in a couple of upsetting threads on this forum today, where I usually go to relax. I had better go feed my chickens.

Catherine

Back when we had two dogs, they would sometimes fight, and man they were nasty. One had her ear ripped most of the way up. Once they were fighting, and my mom happened to be out there with a long-handled mop. She repeatedly whacked them on the head with the handle HARD. No response except snarls. The only way to stop them from fighting was by dumping large amounts of water right onto their faces, which achieved the same effect as waterboarding. Trust me, there is almost no way to deter a dog in kill mode.

 

[EweSheep]

Crait, I am referring to Keni. Not you.

 

[crait]

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Okay, it just really upsets me whenever I hear people talking like that others without knowing what they've gone through. No hard feelings.

 

[Brindlebtch]

flakey chick, I love your "in my version of probable reality"!

 

[MysticScorpio82]

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The part that is in bold... Was it not the dog owner who stated that? (or did I mis-read?) In the article the dog owner also said he let the dog loose to run and then went home. The dog owner was not there and couldn't have known what happened between his dog and the chicken owner. This guy, the dog owner, seems to be grasping at straws to gain more sympathy for his predator...erm...dog.

Also it depends on what kind of fencing the chicken owner had, as to how fast the dog could get through it. If it was just chicken wire and wood, then yes, the dog could get through it within a minute or two.

Another thing is the dog does not have to be in the chicken enclosure to kill a chicken. the dog doesn't even have to have a chicken in it's mouth to kill it. Just by having a dog run back and forth and bark at chickens WILL KILL CHICKENS, as well as other livestock. Ask deerman about all the deer he has had killed because of a dog running back and forth barking.

 

[EweSheep]

Crait, sometimes some of us get wrapped up in the heat of moment like this, everything we read was a blur, quickly to jump the gun on responses. It takes a level head to deal with all the stuff when things get heated. It certainly pays to read it again to see what I or others as well as yourself are referring. You are doing a good job making your points that needed to be said.