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Beak, I'll agree with you on a lot of points.

Health care and insurance costs are ridiculous. My employer converted me from "permanant staff" to "consultant" a while back when the economy got really ugly, so I had to get COBRA, and it's my second-highest expense after my mortgage ... and that's for a policy with a $2k deductible that I never meet, so I essentially shell out nearly $12k a year for the "just in case I need more than $2k in health care a year" policy until I can find something better.

The plan I was on before that was almost as bad ... $1500 for the deductible, and they would randomly deny line items and not even count them towards the deductible unless you wasted hours fighting them. They didn't have to keep me happy to keep my business, my employer was the customer. I was just a cost to be contained.

I've gone over my deductible twice in twenty years (thank heavens) ... the two years our children were born. Other than that, it's been a lot of money spent on a what-if and just-in-case.

With all that said, at least I *have* health care. There are millions who don't. My point is that health care is broken at both ends of the spectrum. The people who have it are not getting much health care for the money spent, and the people who don't have it are in a very bad spot indeed.

I wish I could offer up an answer as to how to fix the mess, but I am at a loss. I've seen socialized medicine, and it is mediocre at best. The solution we have today diverts far too much money to pushing paper around, and very little to actual health care.

Perhaps the threat of the government getting into health care will scare the private sector enough to get them to clean up their mess. On the other hand, if you think medical billing is a mess now, wait until the government is doing it ... there's nothing so
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When Congress became a Democratic majority in 2006 they passed a number of bills that Bush wanted. The Republicans in this Congress vote NO down to a man. Grassley who was helping write the Senate version of the Health Bill has stated that even though he will be on the bill he will vote against it because that is Republican policy. Hence the name party of NO. Fortunately they don't matter anyway.

Since the US Govenment does not sell or manufacture any products that is not a real logical question. When I say they can reduce the deficit through a better manged health plan I mean that by saving money on overall cost and bringing in the same amount of income from taxes the deficit will go down. I am not an economics major. Not that it would matter as they all have different opinions too. My opinions are based on conjecture just as yours are. However the conjecture I form my opinions on is not based on lies aimed at those without the reasoning capabilities to see them as bald faced lies.
 
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I know a lot of people think socialized or one payer medicine is bad. I worry about that myself. However it seems like the most cost efficient way to do things. I know some o the countries that have it also have very high taxes. Some of that is because they have cradle to grave coverage on all aspects of life. It seems that if we pooled all the money that is spent on health insurance and controlled some of the cost associated with health care along with preventative health care. It wouldn't cost so much. After all the idea of insurance is to have a large sector of people all contributing to a pool so that cost are defrayed amongst all people in that pool. With 330 million people in the pool it would seem that it would lower cost. In addition it would seem that if everyone is in the same system then paperwork would be minimized. I know that is probably a pipe dream. Anything to do with the government requires multiple forms all to be inspected and approved by a petty bureaucrat. Still it irks me t pay what I pay for coverage and know that United Health Cares CEO makes 120k per hour and on top of that there are millions of US citizens with serious health issues that have no source for health care. It just isn't right in a country as prosperous as ours..
 
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Most dealers have to pay for cars upon order, less an amount called holdback (some pay the invoice amount, then get reimbursed for holdback amounts). If the car sits more than 90 days, they've eaten up the holdback amount and are not likely to make much profit on that vehicle. The contracts between manufacturers and dealers are complicated, and I won't pretend to know all about them, but cars sitting idle on a dealer's lot are costing the dealer money.

Who is holding the title is immaterial ... the dealer has cash tied up, and idle inventory costs the dealer money.

Sure it cost them money, nothing like the cost of the cars.

Again they dont own them. Reason you can go to a dealer, and have One sent from another dealer. On line shopping for Auto can be grand.
 
I wonder if this country is so prosperous because "we all pooled our money together". Or is it because so many of us work very hard for everything we have. I know some "RICH" people who work 7 days a week. 12 and 16 hrs a day. Do you think it is fair that the guy next door does just enough to get by and then whines because he don't have money to spend or invest? We are rewarded for how much or how little work we put into things. Don't get me wrong, God has blessed this nation and I think we need to help our fellow man. There are different ways to solve a problem other that dumping loads of the "pooled" money on it.
 
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You cant be real, you think all this spending. they can reduce the Deficit. Heck they are just taxing and spending.

See you cant see the whole thing you just think the democrates CANT do any wrong.

Why not pool all our money, to get better price on food, gas,and etc. Yes we will all pay the same price, Open your eyes.
 
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Beck, how many chicken you have, we need to share those also, why should just a few people get eggs. after all I know some people that have none. Oh guess you could feed the chicken, and take care of them, then we can take the eggs and give to those people who dont want to take care of chickens.
 
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