Cochin breeding, genetics, and showing

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by lilcrow, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Quote:You need to read the actual description of Lemon Blue from the APA / ABA color description that is accurate breed doesn't matter when the color and pattern and are defined. I have never seen a lemon Blue in Cochin they appear to be Blue and Buff and all wrong based on the color standard.
    Lemon Blue is Lemon Blue regardless of breed.
     
  2. Coopa Cabana

    Coopa Cabana My Coop Runneth Over . . .

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    Quote:You need to read the actual description of Lemon Blue from the APA / ABA color description that is accurate breed doesn't matter when the color and pattern and are defined. I have never seen a lemon Blue in Cochin they appear to be Blue and Buff and all wrong based on the color standard.
    Lemon Blue is Lemon Blue regardless of breed.

    Lemon Blue is Brown Red x Blue. Marty McGuire had some of the best Bantam LB's, and sold most, if not all, of his to fellow BYC member candiss. There is a BYC Lemon Blue Cochin thread, and you can find a lot of pics of her birds there.
     
  3. nicalandia

    nicalandia Overrun With Chickens

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    Quote:You need to read the actual description of Lemon Blue from the APA / ABA color description that is accurate breed doesn't matter when the color and pattern and are defined. I have never seen a lemon Blue in Cochin they appear to be Blue and Buff and all wrong based on the color standard.
    Lemon Blue is Lemon Blue regardless of breed.

    Lemon Blue is Brown Red x Blue. Marty McGuire had some of the best Bantam LB's, and sold most, if not all, of his to fellow BYC member candiss. There is a BYC Lemon Blue Cochin thread, and you can find a lot of pics of her birds there.

    That's the thing... Most birds that are called Lemon Blue Cochin dont meet the phenotype standard...
     
  4. NellaBean

    NellaBean Graceland Farms

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    Here is a link to one of Candiss' auctions so you can see pix of her birds. I'm not familiar with the lemon blue color myself but do recall hearing discussion about it veering off the standard previously (not Candiss' birrds, someone else who breeds and sells on byc)

    https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=501781
     
  5. Candiss

    Candiss Burdette Bantams

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    I will say with Cochins, the blue should have lacing, I think the standard calls more for a slate blue rather than a powdery blue that most people tend to like. Marty is an expert with the color and worked extremly hard to get them to what they are.. Alot of people breed the blue to buff to create what is called a lemon blue but it is not acurate and they do not breed true. As stated previously, you have to breed a brown red and blue together and work with that.
     
  6. sjarvis00

    sjarvis00 Chillin' With My Peeps

    May 4, 2009
    Shawnee, OKlahoma
    Quote:Andalusion blue requires lacing regardless of breed, that is well documented within the color standard. lavendar / self blue is not laced.
    You should note that Blue, lemon Blue, Silver Blue, Blue Partridge and several other "Blue" Varieties are based on andalusion blue. However there are well documented color standards that should be adhered to regardless of breed, bantam, or large fowl.
     
  7. SierraView

    SierraView Chillin' With My Peeps

    I have some lemon blues hatched from egg I got from Candiss. These guys hatched in the middle of May they are 3 months old in these pics

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  8. Coopa Cabana

    Coopa Cabana My Coop Runneth Over . . .

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    Quote:They're gorgeous! I'm sure if I had room for another color variety, Lemon Blues would be at the top of my list!
     
  9. Candiss

    Candiss Burdette Bantams

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    Andalusion blue requires lacing regardless of breed, that is well documented within the color standard. lavendar / self blue is not laced.
    You should note that Blue, lemon Blue, Silver Blue, Blue Partridge and several other "Blue" Varieties are based on andalusion blue. However there are well documented color standards that should be adhered to regardless of breed, bantam, or large fowl.

    I am referencing the lacing because of the previous post where someone posted that the bird in the second picture was one of the best representative of the LB color they have seen, it does not have good lacing and has white feathering on the feet. I prefer a medium color blue. I have a few modern game and they are darker lemon blue than what I am breeding for in my cochins.​
     
  10. Candiss

    Candiss Burdette Bantams

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    Quote:Jen, they are beautiful.. [​IMG] Thank you for sharing.. <3
     

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