Cochin Thread!!!

[Black Cochin Bantams]

I have a question It may have been asked already but Im gonna ask it again Why cant you breed two frizzles together ? What will you get or what will happen ? I have been pondering this for some time and for the life of me I cant figure it out Thanx for any help on this

Mike

Bantyman~My understanding is that the feathers will be very brittle and there will hardly be any feathers. The poor chickens will not have adequate coverage from the sun or the cold weather. It is not a pretty sight.

FRIZZLE GENE

This is the gene which makes the feathers curl up instead of lie flat. Not all babies are frizzled. A double expression of the gene presents a pleiotropic condition where the birds have almost no feathers and several other conditions that retard growth and immune system problems. Remember when making a breeding pen that a 100% Frizzle rooster with a 100% Frizzle hen will produce some chicks with problems. You need to keep both non-frizzled and frizzled birds in the same breeding pen.

 

[tiki244]

Apyl he is adorable!!!! And what a cute name! I so want some white cochins. I just realised we live only about 60 miles from each other. lol

I love my Cochin. He is only 3 weeks old but has a distinctive personality. His name is Mr. Marshmallow . This is him yesterday while he was exploring their run.

 

[tiki244]

lilcrow is the cochin in your avatar a birchen? It looks birchen but is kinda dark. That is the one I was talking about.

 

[tiki244]

lilcrow is the cochin in your avatar a birchen? It looks birchen but is kinda dark. That is the one I was talking about.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

Quote:

FRIZZLE GENE

This is the gene which makes the feathers curl up instead of lie flat. Not all babies are frizzled. A double expression of the gene presents a pleiotropic condition where the birds have almost no feathers and several other conditions that retard growth and immune system problems. Remember when making a breeding pen that a 100% Frizzle rooster with a 100% Frizzle hen will produce some chicks with problems. You need to keep both non-frizzled and frizzled birds in the same breeding pen.

To further elaborate just a bit, birds with Frizzled feathers must adhere to the same SOP as their smooth counterparts for quality of the feathers, with the only exception being that their feathers curve forward. The feathers of "Curlies" generally will not meet SOP standards, i.e. for feather width, fullness, etc.

 

[Mr. Ree]

how do you get a frizzle chicken in the first place? is it an actual breed of chicken?

In some countries Frizzles are a breed and are shown and bred as such. Here in the US they are not a breed, any breed of chicken can be frizzled, including Silkies. The bird must conform to the breed and variety description of the breed in which it represents to be shown. Most commonly frizzles are found in Polish, Rock, Cochin, Japanese, and Seramas, but the frizzled feathering can be introduced into any breed.


~Casey

 

[Desirai]

so if I breed my cochins together over and over will I eventually get a frizzled cochin?

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

so if I breed my cochins together over and over will I eventually get a frizzled cochin?

Not unless at least one of them is carrying the frizzle gene the way I understand it.

The above posting was my original response. Below is what I should have posted. Thank you Casey for making that clear. He posted a simple easy to follow guideline on frizzle breeding on page 893.

1 of them has to be a frizzle not just have the frizzle gene.

 

[bantyman]

Thanx Tiki and Craig Now I have a better understanding of the frizzle gene and what will happen when bred together

Mike

 

[Desirai]

so tell me about colors. Is it possible to get lavender cochins?

the chicks I have, I don't know the colors. I think I have buff, black and whatever you get when you breed a buff and a black. they're just pet quality.

but I totally want blue cochins! And lavender orpingtons! So can a lavender orp breed with a cochin to make a lavender cochin?