Cochin Thread!!!

[BantyChickenLuv]

A friend posted this and I felt compelled to copy and repost it here.

Here's my general overall opinion: If you have to ask 'WHAT WILL I GET if I breed my X to my Y?', then you have no business breeding X to Y. Just because you have a pretty male and a pretty female is no excuse to breed them. You are not doing the Breed any favors; you are not doing your birds any favors. We ALL love to tinker with genetics - it's fun! But please do it with an educated and informed goal in mind.

I very much agree with that statement.

 

[lilcrow]

A friend posted this and I felt compelled to copy and repost it here. Their thought on this mirrors mine so I am sharing this.

Here's my general overall opinion: If you have to ask 'WHAT WILL I GET if I breed my X to my Y?', then you have no business breeding X to Y. Just because you have a pretty male and a pretty female is no excuse to breed them. You are not doing the Breed any favors; you are not doing your birds any favors. We ALL love to tinker with genetics - it's fun! But please do it with an educated and informed goal in mind.

Well, said Craig. I couldn't agree more.

 

[Coopa Cabana]

A friend posted this and I felt compelled to copy and repost it here. Their thought on this mirrors mine so I am sharing this.

Here's my general overall opinion: If you have to ask 'WHAT WILL I GET if I breed my X to my Y?', then you have no business breeding X to Y. Just because you have a pretty male and a pretty female is no excuse to breed them. You are not doing the Breed any favors; you are not doing your birds any favors. We ALL love to tinker with genetics - it's fun! But please do it with an educated and informed goal in mind.

Proud to be your friend!!!

 

[Reyvaughn]

A friend posted this and I felt compelled to copy and repost it here. Their thought on this mirrors mine so I am sharing this.

Here's my general overall opinion: If you have to ask 'WHAT WILL I GET if I breed my X to my Y?', then you have no business breeding X to Y. Just because you have a pretty male and a pretty female is no excuse to breed them. You are not doing the Breed any favors; you are not doing your birds any favors. We ALL love to tinker with genetics - it's fun! But please do it with an educated and informed goal in mind.

I agree... and disagree. In the case of project colors (MFCs), it's a valid question. If you are just crossing to see, then no.

Since it's the topic again and I asked and got no answers (as usual)... I have 2 black girls, one is a crop out of a MFC project. She has NO leakage. The other came from someone who was crossing her with some funky mixed colored, horrible type bantam Cochin and making more horrid babies. Since I do NOT know her genetics, I am going to assume she looks black, but isn't. Genetically speaking, is black dominant? If I breed them back to my black (known black for at least 3 generations), how many generations will it take to get the menagerie of other genetics bred out? Or is this a dumb question I should not have even asked?

 

[ki4got]

Quote: yes, typically solid black is E/E (extended black) and will override most other colors, but sometimes some things leak thru. like columbian or patterning. mottled and barred override the E gene, by removing segments of color from each feather.

 

[spotsplus]

Here is my daughter, Melyssa, and her bantam Cochin hen "Sticky" at a 4-H event at Oak Knoll Audobon Society. Sticky likes to perch on her arm like a parrot would.

 

[tadkerson]

I agree... and disagree. In the case of project colors (MFCs), it's a valid question. If you are just crossing to see, then no.

Since it's the topic again and I asked and got no answers (as usual)... I have 2 black girls, one is a crop out of a MFC project. She has NO leakage. The other came from someone who was crossing her with some funky mixed colored, horrible type bantam Cochin and making more horrid babies. Since I do NOT know her genetics, I am going to assume she looks black, but isn't. Genetically speaking, is black dominant? If I breed them back to my black (known black for at least 3 generations), how many generations will it take to get the menagerie of other genetics bred out? Or is this a dumb question I should not have even asked?

1. Females will be black and the same female's brother will be black but leak color. This means females that are genetically the same as the male will be black while the same genetic male will leak red or white. Black females are easier to produce than males because they carry female hormones. Males tend to leak non-black color because they do not have female hormones.

2. Black color in chickens is normally caused by 2 or more genes. These genes come in pairs. So in order to have a solid black bird- the bird must normally carry two of each kind of gene.

3. If your cross your black female in question with a black male- most likely you will produce black females, black males and black males that are leaking non-black color. I would not use a black female ( for breeding) that produces black males that leak color. She will produce females just like her- this will perpetuate the color problems in males.

Tim

 

[Sanna]

A friend posted this and I felt compelled to copy and repost it here. Their thought on this mirrors mine so I am sharing this.

Here's my general overall opinion: If you have to ask 'WHAT WILL I GET if I breed my X to my Y?', then you have no business breeding X to Y. Just because you have a pretty male and a pretty female is no excuse to breed them. You are not doing the Breed any favors; you are not doing your birds any favors. We ALL love to tinker with genetics - it's fun! But please do it with an educated and informed goal in mind.

Well said!

Here is my daughter, Melyssa, and her bantam Cochin hen "Sticky" at a 4-H event at Oak Knoll Audobon Society. Sticky likes to perch on her arm like a parrot would.

That's a great shot. I love the name Sticky.

 

[mama2my4]

Here is my daughter, Melyssa, and her bantam Cochin hen "Sticky" at a 4-H event at Oak Knoll Audobon Society. Sticky likes to perch on her arm like a parrot would.

Very pretty....both of them!

 

[StacyTN]

What color classification would this guy be considered? We call him Coppertop