Cochin Thread!!!

[HooverHenHouse]

Good to know, I am still trying to figure out how I didnt notice it when I first got him.

 

[AndyCap]

Hey all, i can understand wanting to know what "x" will come out from a breeding of "y" and "z". I also understand the frustration of the more experienced members here.

to illustrate the difficulty, here is the f1 from a partridge male to a black female, part of my improving partridge project. According to the genetics calculator i should have black f1's with some red leakage.

i did, but from the small number hatched (20) i also got this guy. All this shows you is that i can't make any guesses, as i don't know the lineage of my starting stock. This guy is very cute, but shouldn't have come up if my lines were bred properly i don't think.

He has the cutest little rear i have ever seen (pure white), an almost pure white chest, and black wings and saddle. Definitely not what i was expecting! Just goes to show it is a long road, and without knowing exactly what you are starting with, it is almost impossible to know what will pop out of the genetic mix.













And this little guy came from a pure black frizzle Roo, put over a white smooth hen.

 

[ki4got]

Hey all, i can understand wanting to know what "x" will come out from a breeding of "y" and "z". I also understand the frustration of the more experienced members here.

to illustrate the difficulty, here is the f1 from a partridge male to a black female, part of my improving partridge project. According to the genetics calculator i should have black f1's with some red leakage.

i did, but from the small number hatched (20) i also got this guy. All this shows you is that i can't make any guesses, as i don't know the lineage of my starting stock. This guy is very cute, but shouldn't have come up if my lines were bred properly i don't think.

He has the cutest little rear i have ever seen (pure white), an almost pure white chest, and black wings and saddle. Definitely not what i was expecting! Just goes to show it is a long road, and without knowing exactly what you are starting with, it is almost impossible to know what will pop out of the genetic mix.
And this little guy came from a pure black frizzle Roo, put over a white smooth hen.

the 'chicken calculator' only works on the assumption that any black or white birds are ONLY black or white, with no other genetics hiding or being masked by the black/white genes... which happens more often than not!

both can hide a myriad of different mutations, some of which may even be dominant. the only 2 genes i can think of that black DOESN'T hide, are mottling and barring. in that case the gene is turning the expression of color vs white on and off as the feather grows. but both of those mutations CAN be hidden by white, since it restricts the expression of all pigments.

Joe, at Yellow House Farm in NH determined, when trying to improve his white dorkings by crossing them with silver greys, that his whites also carried the barring gene.

so yeah, the calculator works, but only to the limit of the information that's entered. it's not always possible to tell from looking, what hidden mutations may be lurking under a particular coat of feathers. 8)

 

[AndyCap]

the 'chicken calculator' only works on the assumption that any black or white birds are ONLY black or white, with no other genetics hiding or being masked by the black/white genes... which happens more often than not!

both can hide a myriad of different mutations, some of which may even be dominant. the only 2 genes i can think of that black DOESN'T hide, are mottling and barring. in that case the gene is turning the expression of color vs white on and off as the feather grows. but both of those mutations CAN be hidden by white, since it restricts the expression of all pigments.

Joe, at Yellow House Farm in NH determined, when trying to improve his white dorkings by crossing them with silver greys, that his whites also carried the barring gene.

so yeah, the calculator works, but only to the limit of the information that's entered. it's not always possible to tell from looking, what hidden mutations may be lurking under a particular coat of feathers. 8)

Exactly what i was thinking, without knowing the line's history, it is impossible to predict the outcome

can just make guesses based on what pops out.

 

[cochins1088]

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I just love the white patch of fluff! Very cute!

 

[davony's chicks]

I just love the white patch of fluff! Very cute!

X2! So cute!

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

My oldest and favorite Cochin died yesterday. She was 6 and will be missed. She was hatched here.
Craig

 

[Coopa Cabana]

My oldest and favorite Cochin died yesterday. She was 6 and will be missed. She was hatched here.
Craig

She was gorgeous! I remember when you won with her! But she leaves with you a great legacy.

 

[mama2my4]

My oldest and favorite Cochin died yesterday. She was 6 and will be missed. She was hatched here. Craig

I am so sorry

 

[joanie_maine]

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She was gorgeous, I hope you got some nice chicks from her along the way??