Cochin Thread!!!

[cochinman2005]

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Good morning,
#2 and #3 will probably be the best colored pullets. The first place you'll see adult type pattern is in the shoulder, and wing bay/bar area and then the chest. I like the amount of fluff that they are showing. I would also grow all of them out to at least 8 or 9 months old so that you really know what you have. The last pullet looks like she'll be extremely dark. The challenge is improving the pattern and type without going outside the breed. So what to do? You could cross with Silver Laced. However, they aren't that great either. I know, I have some. I have pretty good type and the color is getting there, but struggling with white in the earlobes. For such a cross I'd recommend GL male X SL female, as all the pullets will be GL from that cross. You could also cross to Buff Columbian. The BC's have good type and are a pattern gene away from Golden Laced. I've done this with my Large Golden Laced with some sucess. Not that I had Large Buff Columbians but I had done a White X Buff Cross and bred a GL to a pullet from that cross and the resulting birds looked mostly Buff Columbian, which I then bred to Golden Laced. I'll take some pics of the results. I have tried Silver LAced X Columbian in hopes to improve the type in the SL's. I haven't really liked what I've gotten with that cross, although this year I have a couple pullets that carry a good amount of lacing. The trouble is that the original cross resulted in some birds with willow feet, and the birds with willow feet are better in all aspects than their yellow legged counterparts (all the willow footed chicks have been pullets). There are options for crosses, but I'd like to see some maturity on these guys before resulting to a cross. The cockerel shouldn't be showing the white ticking in the breast though. Do you have other ckls?

 

[Coopa Cabana]

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Good morning,
#2 and #3 will probably be the best colored pullets. The first place you'll see adult type pattern is in the shoulder, and wing bay/bar area and then the chest. I like the amount of fluff that they are showing. I would also grow all of them out to at least 8 or 9 months old so that you really know what you have. The last pullet looks like she'll be extremely dark. The challenge is improving the pattern and type without going outside the breed. So what to do? You could cross with Silver Laced. However, they aren't that great either. I know, I have some. I have pretty good type and the color is getting there, but struggling with white in the earlobes. For such a cross I'd recommend GL male X SL female, as all the pullets will be GL from that cross. You could also cross to Buff Columbian. The BC's have good type and are a pattern gene away from Golden Laced. I've done this with my Large Golden Laced with some sucess. Not that I had Large Buff Columbians but I had done a White X Buff Cross and bred a GL to a pullet from that cross and the resulting birds looked mostly Buff Columbian, which I then bred to Golden Laced. I'll take some pics of the results. I have tried Silver LAced X Columbian in hopes to improve the type in the SL's. I haven't really liked what I've gotten with that cross, although this year I have a couple pullets that carry a good amount of lacing. The trouble is that the original cross resulted in some birds with willow feet, and the birds with willow feet are better in all aspects than their yellow legged counterparts (all the willow footed chicks have been pullets). There are options for crosses, but I'd like to see some maturity on these guys before resulting to a cross. The cockerel shouldn't be showing the white ticking in the breast though. Do you have other ckls?

Thanx so much, Tom! As this is my 1st season with GLs, I hadn't really given any thought yet to breeding in another color to improve the type and color. So that is definitely something I will think about. I know that the big difference between the GLs and BC is the Pg gene, and as they both have the Co, so that is certainly a good option.

I only hatched out 8 chicks this spring from the pair I got from Bernita (you can see pics of the sire and dam on MyPage). Luckily, the hen appears to be throwing mostly female, so I can keep most of the girls over the winter and see how they develop. (I actually have one other darker pullet - who absolutely did not want to have her pic taken!) So 6f and 2m. Below is a pic of the first ckl to hatch (he already has a new home).

When the pair got here, I waited a full 3 weeks before I started collecting eggs to hatch, but she was obviously still fertile from another roo. I know Bernita has lots of different varieties, so I contacted her to see who the hen might have been with before she shipped her. She thought that it was probably just white showing up from a few generations back, when white was crossed in to improve type. But my understanding is that the white is recessive, and if it does surface, the bird will be all white.

So Calypso is the only ckl I have at the present from the spring breedings, and with his coloring and the fact that the first ckl had so much white, I'm still not sure that Calypso is 100% GL, but he's showing such good type (at least to me), that I want to keep him and hopefully still be able to use him.

~Gail

This is the first ckl that hatched - still an enigma as to "Who's His Daddy":

 

[Louieandthecrew]

Pretty!!!!
How about you show off ALL of your pretty hens and handsome roos??? You could WIN with these pretty fellas!!!
Hens : https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=389990
Roosters : https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=388146
Go on! Enter quickly!!!

 

[davony's chicks]

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looks like a nice roo.

 

[davony's chicks]

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They are beatiful birds! I am so jealous! Maybe someday I too can have a project.

 

[magsrags]

OK, I am in terrible distress right now. I have to move sooner than later rom my home of 25 years. I do not know if where I go I can "hide" my MFC banty Napoleon with his Jospehine from new neighbors until I KNOW where I have to live. Hens no problem....Napoleon will be unless it is a unique situation where he doesn't bother anyone.:<(

I would love to know if anyone living within Staten Island....NJ.....PA.... area would be able to take the PAIR if I cannot keep them. I don't enjoy entertaining the idea of re-homing them at all. My neighbors right now love them and they are beautiul and at the point of lay at almost 6 months now. Napoleon is a gentleman and Josephine a lovely lady.

Tate's where I purchased my MGC eggs & hatch 6 of 12. I understand he does no more. Mine are simply lovely.:<P

Ohhhh....boy....this is depressing to say the least. If I could line up a home or 2 it would make me much relieved should the situation have to happen. I otherwise intend on keeping them if possible to try to hatch some of my own.
PM me if you are interested. I have copied this to the MFC cochin thread as well.
TKS I A
Mags

 

[usschicago1]

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Goodluck

 

[davony's chicks]

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That is so sad! I wish you luck which ever way it goes.

 

[Sweetfolly]

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Oh, Mags!

If I lived closer, I'd take them for you temporarily - just until you were in a position to have them back. I'd feed them from silver platters too.

Hopefully you'll find someone willing! Or, better yet, find a way to keep them yourself!

 

[cochinman2005]

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Good morning,
#2 and #3 will probably be the best colored pullets. The first place you'll see adult type pattern is in the shoulder, and wing bay/bar area and then the chest. I like the amount of fluff that they are showing. I would also grow all of them out to at least 8 or 9 months old so that you really know what you have. The last pullet looks like she'll be extremely dark. The challenge is improving the pattern and type without going outside the breed. So what to do? You could cross with Silver Laced. However, they aren't that great either. I know, I have some. I have pretty good type and the color is getting there, but struggling with white in the earlobes. For such a cross I'd recommend GL male X SL female, as all the pullets will be GL from that cross. You could also cross to Buff Columbian. The BC's have good type and are a pattern gene away from Golden Laced. I've done this with my Large Golden Laced with some sucess. Not that I had Large Buff Columbians but I had done a White X Buff Cross and bred a GL to a pullet from that cross and the resulting birds looked mostly Buff Columbian, which I then bred to Golden Laced. I'll take some pics of the results. I have tried Silver LAced X Columbian in hopes to improve the type in the SL's. I haven't really liked what I've gotten with that cross, although this year I have a couple pullets that carry a good amount of lacing. The trouble is that the original cross resulted in some birds with willow feet, and the birds with willow feet are better in all aspects than their yellow legged counterparts (all the willow footed chicks have been pullets). There are options for crosses, but I'd like to see some maturity on these guys before resulting to a cross. The cockerel shouldn't be showing the white ticking in the breast though. Do you have other ckls?

Thanx so much, Tom! As this is my 1st season with GLs, I hadn't really given any thought yet to breeding in another color to improve the type and color. So that is definitely something I will think about. I know that the big difference between the GLs and BC is the Pg gene, and as they both have the Co, so that is certainly a good option.

I only hatched out 8 chicks this spring from the pair I got from Bernita (you can see pics of the sire and dam on MyPage). Luckily, the hen appears to be throwing mostly female, so I can keep most of the girls over the winter and see how they develop. (I actually have one other darker pullet - who absolutely did not want to have her pic taken!) So 6f and 2m. Below is a pic of the first ckl to hatch (he already has a new home).

When the pair got here, I waited a full 3 weeks before I started collecting eggs to hatch, but she was obviously still fertile from another roo. I know Bernita has lots of different varieties, so I contacted her to see who the hen might have been with before she shipped her. She thought that it was probably just white showing up from a few generations back, when white was crossed in to improve type. But my understanding is that the white is recessive, and if it does surface, the bird will be all white.

So Calypso is the only ckl I have at the present from the spring breedings, and with his coloring and the fact that the first ckl had so much white, I'm still not sure that Calypso is 100% GL, but he's showing such good type (at least to me), that I want to keep him and hopefully still be able to use him.

~Gail

This is the first ckl that hatched - still an enigma as to "Who's His Daddy":
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/40221_jazz_7-181.jpg

Gail,
I took some SL Bantam pics.

Pure SL Cockerel (all three pictures above). He is showing some pretty good lacing and you can see that he has some lacing in the secondary coverts area. It looks like his saddles will be a bit muddy as far as the silver lacing goes. He has a little white in his earlobes which is a problem I having. I culled a couple cockerels over the weekend that had much more white in their earlobes.

This pullet is from SL x (SLxCol) cross. The lacing where she has it is good, but you can see that she's got an almost completely white front. She has willow feet, which I get a lot of from the Columbian cross.

Pullet on the left is another of the SL X (SLxCol) crosses. She has some decent lacing and yellow feet. Pullet on the right is a pure SL and a bit younger than the others.

Large Golden Laced pics

These two pullets are from a GL male X the female in the photo on the right. She's the one I mentioned before that resembled a Buff Columbian. She's molting so you can't see her black tail feathers. The pullets are full sisters. It's interesting the variance you get with the crosses. They are about 5 1/2 months old and are showing good size and will be good in the type department too.

GL Cockerel. I'll work on getting the ground color more even over the next couple years.

This male is from an accidental cross. GL X Partridge. 6 1/2 months old. He's a little hocky, but type and size are real good. Too light in the hackle and saddle, but it's like hitting the jackpot to get a cushion like that on a Large GL Cochin, even if he's only 50% GL. Most likely I'll breed him to the best type and colored pure GL females as well as a couple of those cross females as well.