Cochin Thread!!!

[ki4got]

I am looking for a white standard cochin rooster and a standard gold laced cochin rooster. I live in Northern Maine, anyone know of someone that has one available?

you might make a trip down to the show in windham in 2 weeks. i would think there should be some decent birds/breeders there.

 

[Mr. Ree]

I have tried the Tide with Bleach alternative on my Light Brahmas and am not happy with how it totally strips the feathers of any oils.

Be careful with the Blue spotted birds, You might start a new fad color.

Blue paint Cochin?????

You just gave someone an idea, lol. (Not me, just sayin...) That will be 'the next big thing' soon, haha.

I had someone helping mt bathe birds back in the Spring for a show, they "didnt hear me tell them" to rinse them thoroughly after being in the bleach water,...well I still have birds with poor feathers because the bleach dried them out. Good thing for moulting, lol.


~Casey

 

[cochins1088]

I assume the answer will be no since you all seem to be professional breeders, but have any of you ordered chicks from WELP hatchery? If so, were they of any quality? I still can't seem to find hardly any breeders woking on the silver laced cochin batams, but I noticed WELP hatchery has them. I assume I shouldn't go down this road because of the poor quality. But only 4 of the eggs I ordered are developing and the eggs weren't cheap. So what are your opinions on hatcheries?

 

[Mr. Ree]

I assume the answer will be no since you all seem to be professional breeders, but have any of you ordered chicks from WELP hatchery? If so, were they of any quality? I still can't seem to find hardly any breeders woking on the silver laced cochin batams, but I noticed WELP hatchery has them. I assume I shouldn't go down this road because of the poor quality. But only 4 of the eggs I ordered are developing and the eggs weren't cheap. So what are your opinions on hatcheries?

To be honest, and quite frank, with you about it, your not going to find any Bantam Silver Laced Cochins that look like the Whites, Blacks, etc that you see at a show, or see people posting pictures of. The variety is pretty hard to find, and that is why several breeders are outcrossing to Black, White, and Columbian to better type on them. Most people that have them and that sale eggs or birds, are not going to be anywhere near close to what type should be for a Cochin. So to be honest, either way you go, your probably going to get about the same result. From a hatchery you will get numbers, and may get lucky with a couple that are really nice, and I wish you the best of luck if you choose to do so, wish more people were interested in the SL Cochin Btms. And also remember, even if you dont get a bird that looks like a White or Black, doesnt mean you cant breed for that and help the variety become less rare.

~Casey

 

[ki4got]

I assume the answer will be no since you all seem to be professional breeders, but have any of you ordered chicks from WELP hatchery? If so, were they of any quality? I still can't seem to find hardly any breeders woking on the silver laced cochin batams, but I noticed WELP hatchery has them. I assume I shouldn't go down this road because of the poor quality. But only 4 of the eggs I ordered are developing and the eggs weren't cheap. So what are your opinions on hatcheries?

cross fingers your 4 hatch and go from there. the welo chicks i saw were not great quality. they were mostly cochin-ish but looked amost like some crosses i've hatced.

i'm hoping to have silver laced by this time next year.

 

[cochins1088]

To be honest, and quite frank, with you about it, your not going to find any Bantam Silver Laced Cochins that look like the Whites, Blacks, etc that you see at a show, or see people posting pictures of. The variety is pretty hard to find, and that is why several breeders are outcrossing to Black, White, and Columbian to better type on them. Most people that have them and that sale eggs or birds, are not going to be anywhere near close to what type should be for a Cochin. So to be honest, either way you go, your probably going to get about the same result. From a hatchery you will get numbers, and may get lucky with a couple that are really nice, and I wish you the best of luck if you choose to do so, wish more people were interested in the SL Cochin Btms. And also remember, even if you dont get a bird that looks like a White or Black, doesnt mean you cant breed for that and help the variety become less rare.

~Casey

Thanks for the response, when I decided that they were what I wanted to work with, I hadn't realized how rare they were. Still not sure what I should do. I thinking of maybe taking my chances with the shipped eggs again, but if I'm probably going to end up in the same situation, then maybe the hatchery is the better option and I should pray for a few nice ones. I ordered the eggs from Lucky Pickens, her hen Lacie seems to have good type which is one of the reasons I purchased the eggs from her (also couldn't really find them anywhere else) I'll attach pictures, tell me what you think and thanks again!

Photos from Lucky Pickens Farm

 

[AndyCap]

Yes mine go broody all of the time with nothing under them and they will curse you if you go near them! LOL

My cochins go broody all the time, this summer I put 20 nesting boxes in the main coop for my 24 cochin hens and each and every box had a hen sitting in it all day long on multiple occasions. Over half of those hens probably didn't have any eggs as some are older and I didn't want them going broody so I continued taking their eggs everyday.

Yes a Cochin can go broody with no eggs under her. I have had it happen several times.

Thanks all. She is definitely broody, she puffs herself up and chirps at me when i go near very cute. Now to go and search through the BYC archives on how to break a broody.

How long would you wait before you consider her serious? I am thinking of getting her some fertilised eggs to sit on. She has been sitting since Saturday afternoon, and gets up once per day for about twenty minutes to go and eat and drink, then goes back to her imaginary clutch.

 

[NanaKat]

Your hen is ready for eggs. It only takes a few days to confirm they are broody.

 

[Black Cochin Bantams]

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I assume the answer will be no since you all seem to be professional breeders, but have any of you ordered chicks from WELP hatchery? If so, were they of any quality? I still can't seem to find hardly any breeders woking on the silver laced cochin batams, but I noticed WELP hatchery has them. I assume I shouldn't go down this road because of the poor quality. But only 4 of the eggs I ordered are developing and the eggs weren't cheap. So what are your opinions on hatcheries?

To be honest, and quite frank, with you about it, your not going to find any Bantam Silver Laced Cochins that look like the Whites, Blacks, etc that you see at a show, or see people posting pictures of. The variety is pretty hard to find, and that is why several breeders are outcrossing to Black, White, and Columbian to better type on them. Most people that have them and that sale eggs or birds, are not going to be anywhere near close to what type should be for a Cochin. So to be honest, either way you go, your probably going to get about the same result. From a hatchery you will get numbers, and may get lucky with a couple that are really nice, and I wish you the best of luck if you choose to do so, wish more people were interested in the SL Cochin Btms. And also remember, even if you dont get a bird that looks like a White or Black, doesnt mean you cant breed for that and help the variety become less rare.

~Casey

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Casey hit the nail on the head. None of us are professional breeders. I would prefer informed hobby breeders. Most of us hatch less than 25-50 of any one variety in a year so we don't have extras sitting around all the time. In the case of SL the best course to take may be get some hatchery chicks. You ordered eggs from as good a hobby flock of SL as I know of. Perhaps Annamays are better but she did not hatch any this year so that is of no help to you. .Raise and cull then breed the best Rooster to a good typed Columbian hen. That is probably the preferred method because both are silver based so fewer problems down the road. Then you take the best typed of those chicks from that 1 cross and mate back together. The 1st cross will show no lacing. But you will some laced birds when you breed the X birds together. Raise the laced ones and keep cullling. No easy way but that is probably the best. Tom did it years ago and came up with some birds that looked pretty good. When he sold them they became very hard to find.

Craig

 

[TAMMACLEAN]

you might make a trip down to the show in windham in 2 weeks. i would think there should be some decent birds/breeders there.

There is a show in Windham?? Do you know where????