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Dangit!! I can't think straight because the sky is grey all the time!!!

Where the heck is the dang-blasted SUN!?!?!?

I want to get certified to do the testing too...how does one start that process?
 
Dr. Beyer isn't available right now. I can PM you the new address and contact if you want it. You can also do $5 and get a DVD that you don't have to return. That's what I decided on. Don't know that I even have a working VCR. The lady handling the program now was really nice.

She said they are trying to get everything online updated and at some point they want the testing online too.


No sun here today.
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Thanks Laree.

Unfortunately being aware of and being able to implement are 2 different things in the "Twilight Zone" where I am. I'm still working on it though and will let everyone know if/when I get it sorted. I'll also gladly take help from anyone who has gotten it figured out.

For anyone in Indy thinking about getting chickens, the basic code is online http://www.independenceks.gov/City-Code-48435.asp Chapter 10 - Animals, Article IV-Chickens and Rabbits and in more detailed form (coop restrictions, no poultry at large, nuisances, etc) on the 2nd floor of the library. Do not do anything as far as a coop or get chicks before getting your $2 permit no matter what the city clerk's office says. Just keep pressing them and get that permit first or you will get stuck in limbo.


For those already stuck because the clerk's office said it was okay or you checked after you already had them, I'm still working on it. I do know the current fine is $49 for keeping chickens or rabbits without a permit, I do not know if everything else checks out okay whether or not they will then allow you to purchase a permit and keep your chickens or if they require you to get rid of them and reapply after a year. My last conversation was an all day back and forth between the city and animal control over how to even apply (animal control had it right that day) and culminated with a response from the city that if you already had chickens you couldn't even get a permit and would I like to turn myself in.
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My working theory at the moment is that when animal control gets a complaint or there is a violation, such as poultry at large and they inspect, they then ask for your permit and cite those without one, but since the city is responsible for issuing the permits and animal control's involvement is to address complaints or witnessed violations of the other ordinances, they don't drive around looking for undocumented chickens. They don't know who has one or not because it's not their job to issue the permits. In my last conversations with the clerk's office once I got past the "you don't need a permit" to someone who did finally concede there possibly was such a thing, they kept insisting animal control had to inspect and issue the permit, not the clerk's office. I'm honestly not sure the city has anything pre-printed at this point and for my next attempt I think I'm going to try going in with my own typed out copy of a "chicken permit" and a copy of the ordinances. I have some things to arrange first, including new temporary accommodations for my flock and eliminating any evidence of their occupancy just in case, so it may be a bit before I get it done, but if I manage it or learn anything new I will share the info.
 
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That's wild Avery! Here in Wichita anyone is allowed up to 5 chickens without a permit and 12 with a permit, which is probably a good thing because I'm sure a LOT of people would buy the cute little chicks at Tractor Supply first and think about whether they were legal later.
 
What's truly wild is when you do call beforehand and they tell you that sure you can have chickens while failing to mention the need for a permit.
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When I get a chance I'm planning to drive by the last place I saw that was fined and see if they still have their chickens and talk to them if possible. I haven't been able to locate a phone number for them.

Seems pretty straightforward to me. They allow chickens with a $2 permit. I have $2 and I want a permit. I don't know why it's a problem.
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You all should submit! Even if the submittal says "there are conflicting/contradictory laws" with the appropriate links, that is still 100% more information than we have now.

Phoenix is the same way. I tried to put that info in there, to at lease encourage people to do mroe research. IE- roosters are allowed, but NOISE ORDINANCES say, "no male poultry capable of producing vocal sounds which are a disturbance". Noise ords trump all other laws, but if no one complains, there is no broken rule. So the key word is "disturbance".
 
The copy at the library had more information specific to poultry, but I'm not able to get back there in the near future. When I can, I will list it if no one else has.

I remember the basic gist was "Don't be a problem and you won't have a problem." The part that stuck with me was the "poultry at large" section. We had a few escape artists at one point.
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We've had ours for 3 yrs and as Tammy can attest, they aren't hidden at all. I'm sure there are locals who haven't seen them, but I'm fairly sure both the city and animal control are aware they are here. They are kind of hard to miss.
 
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Ahh but they look healthy and happy and her rooster is gorgeous! I've lived here all my life and delivered mail for half of that. Last week was the first time I ever noticed chickens on that side of the street. So I'd say you're doin' good! We've changed animal control officers several times in the last couple years ... not sure the one we have now would know a chicken from a ... well never mind .. you might be better off just staying under the radar. Neighbors are usually the problem but it sounds like you have good rapport with yours.
 

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