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Heat makes every one a bit more sensitive and irritable. Daren has an awesome sense of humor, but sometimes I guess it is hard to see a smiling face when you are reading. He does make an valid point. We all need to enjoy life! I spent too many years in a corporate world and am really living for the first time. Raising birds is an excellent way to just enjoy life!
I have an RO-DI system that I set up for salt water tanks. It is a great way to get pure water for your own bottled water. The worst part of course is buying those expensive filters. They are over $50 each and don't last very long.
 
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Well apparently your not up on the facts here. The issue Perry lake is haveing is due to all the flood waters bringing in all the fertilizers from all the feilds I know this because we spoke to a wildlife officer. So now is your chance to swim. I guess if you wanna wait for a bigger flood then I guess there will be even more crap being brought in.
I makes me laugh at how many hypocondriacts there are sitting around worring about this and that darn folks get out and frickin live.

I would also love to see your home bottled water system. Are you collecting rain water?

Daren

Sorry to hear you're sick Daren, I hope you are starting to feel better.

I have to say I don't agree with the conservation officer's assessment, not that I am any expert in the field myself. The flooding that is affecting the local rivers is caused from rains and snow melt in the northern states. We haven't seen any significant flooding in the midwest that would affect the watershed of Perry. The lake is high because the Corps of Engineers are keeping the dam closed to prevent further flooding of the Missouri River at the confluence in Kansas City. Flood control and navigation is the primary function of the corps lakes projects that were developed as part of the New Deal that helped bring the U.S. out of the depression in the 1930's.

Now, fertilizer runoff does contribute to algae bloom, but I think the real problem is runoff in general washing nutrient rich substances (fertilizer, minerals, and yes poop) into the lake in a high-heat climate while the lake is relatively calm. So Lake Perry is a great big petri dish right now.
 
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Well apparently your not up on the facts here. The issue Perry lake is haveing is due to all the flood waters bringing in all the fertilizers from all the feilds I know this because we spoke to a wildlife officer. So now is your chance to swim. I guess if you wanna wait for a bigger flood then I guess there will be even more crap being brought in.
I makes me laugh at how many hypocondriacts there are sitting around worring about this and that darn folks get out and frickin live.

I would also love to see your home bottled water system. Are you collecting rain water?

Daren

Sorry to hear you're sick Daren, I hope you are starting to feel better.

I have to say I don't agree with the conservation officer's assessment, not that I am any expert in the field myself. The flooding that is affecting the local rivers is caused from rains and snow melt in the northern states. We haven't seen any significant flooding in the midwest that would affect the watershed of Perry. The lake is high because the Corps of Engineers are keeping the dam closed to prevent further flooding of the Missouri River at the confluence in Kansas City. Flood control and navigation is the primary function of the corps lakes projects that were developed as part of the New Deal that helped bring the U.S. out of the depression in the 1930's.

Now, fertilizer runoff does contribute to algae bloom, but I think the real problem is runoff in general washing nutrient rich substances (fertilizer, minerals, and yes poop) into the lake in a high-heat climate while the lake is relatively calm. So Lake Perry is a great big petri dish right now.

All great points Mike.

Very sorry I didn't get over there this week end hope your not mad at me. I will try to get over there maybe Saturday if you haven't already started butchering yet
 
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Sorry to hear you're sick Daren, I hope you are starting to feel better.

I have to say I don't agree with the conservation officer's assessment, not that I am any expert in the field myself. The flooding that is affecting the local rivers is caused from rains and snow melt in the northern states. We haven't seen any significant flooding in the midwest that would affect the watershed of Perry. The lake is high because the Corps of Engineers are keeping the dam closed to prevent further flooding of the Missouri River at the confluence in Kansas City. Flood control and navigation is the primary function of the corps lakes projects that were developed as part of the New Deal that helped bring the U.S. out of the depression in the 1930's.

Now, fertilizer runoff does contribute to algae bloom, but I think the real problem is runoff in general washing nutrient rich substances (fertilizer, minerals, and yes poop) into the lake in a high-heat climate while the lake is relatively calm. So Lake Perry is a great big petri dish right now.

All great points Mike.

Very sorry I didn't get over there this week end hope your not mad at me. I will try to get over there maybe Saturday if you haven't already started butchering yet

No problem at all. It was too hot anyway, even early in the morning. I'll let the stupid chickens kill each other before I kill myself. In the mean time, I put another fan in the chicken house aimed directly at the roost and I ordered some water nipples to streamline and more efficiently water the birds. I'm also going to start pulling the roosters and put them elsewhere. The only way I can tell what is a rooster and what is a hen is to watch to see who's on top... a bit time consuming.
 
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All great points Mike.

Very sorry I didn't get over there this week end hope your not mad at me. I will try to get over there maybe Saturday if you haven't already started butchering yet

No problem at all. It was too hot anyway, even early in the morning. I'll let the stupid chickens kill each other before I kill myself. In the mean time, I put another fan in the chicken house aimed directly at the roost and I ordered some water nipples to streamline and more efficiently water the birds. I'm also going to start pulling the roosters and put them elsewhere. The only way I can tell what is a rooster and what is a hen is to watch to see who's on top... a bit time consuming.

Last year was the first year I used watering nipples and I love them. Last year I put them in a 3/4 PVC pipe hooked to a 5 gallon bucket. This system worked great, but I could not use it in the winter.

In the winter I use just the 5 gallon bucket and a 250 watt tank heater so my birds had unfrozen water all winter. This summer I just kept using my winter watering setup with no tank heater mainly because I was lazy and never set up the summer system, the winter system was working fine. The bonus for me in my laziness is I can put a frozen 2 liter bottle in the bucket and now my birds have cold to cool water to drink.
 
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No problem at all. It was too hot anyway, even early in the morning. I'll let the stupid chickens kill each other before I kill myself. In the mean time, I put another fan in the chicken house aimed directly at the roost and I ordered some water nipples to streamline and more efficiently water the birds. I'm also going to start pulling the roosters and put them elsewhere. The only way I can tell what is a rooster and what is a hen is to watch to see who's on top... a bit time consuming.

Last year was the first year I used watering nipples and I love them. Last year I put them in a 3/4 PVC pipe hooked to a 5 gallon bucket. This system worked great, but I could not use it in the winter.

In the winter I use just the 5 gallon bucket and a 250 watt tank heater so my birds had unfrozen water all winter. This summer I just kept using my winter watering setup with no tank heater mainly because I was lazy and never set up the summer system, the winter system was working fine. The bonus for me in my laziness is I can put a frozen 2 liter bottle in the bucket and now my birds have cold to cool water to drink.

I bought both the bucket and pipe type of nipples. I'll use buckets for now until I get my rain barrel set up. This winter I will have fewer birds and a couple of buckets with heaters will be enough. I might use the pipe nipples in a chicken tractor next year with some meat birds. I'm just getting tired of poop in the water.

Another thing, my layers have stopped laying. I am assuming it is due to the abuse from the roosters and the heat. I'm working on getting the roosters out, they already killed one of my leghorn layers... I was not happy that day. Any thoughts on this?
 
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Well apparently your not up on the facts here. The issue Perry lake is haveing is due to all the flood waters bringing in all the fertilizers from all the feilds I know this because we spoke to a wildlife officer. So now is your chance to swim. I guess if you wanna wait for a bigger flood then I guess there will be even more crap being brought in.
I makes me laugh at how many hypocondriacts there are sitting around worring about this and that darn folks get out and frickin live.

I would also love to see your home bottled water system. Are you collecting rain water?

Daren

Sorry to hear you're sick Daren, I hope you are starting to feel better.

I have to say I don't agree with the conservation officer's assessment, not that I am any expert in the field myself. The flooding that is affecting the local rivers is caused from rains and snow melt in the northern states. We haven't seen any significant flooding in the midwest that would affect the watershed of Perry. The lake is high because the Corps of Engineers are keeping the dam closed to prevent further flooding of the Missouri River at the confluence in Kansas City. Flood control and navigation is the primary function of the corps lakes projects that were developed as part of the New Deal that helped bring the U.S. out of the depression in the 1930's.

Now, fertilizer runoff does contribute to algae bloom, but I think the real problem is runoff in general washing nutrient rich substances (fertilizer, minerals, and yes poop) into the lake in a high-heat climate while the lake is relatively calm. So Lake Perry is a great big petri dish right now.

BTW, to substantiate my opinion, have a look at this report from 2006 from the Corps of Engineers on Lake Perry water quality...
http://www.nwk.usace.army.mil/lakes/WaterQualityReport/06_Perry_Lake.pdf
 

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