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Interesting facts about others beliefs/customs
what year is it with a pagan calendar? Or has that been lost in the centuries

It isn't. Anglo-saxon traditions are focused on the cyclical nature of the year, and there's no particular need to mark what year it is. There's no evidence of any sort of year marking that I can find in anglo-saxon traditions. Modern pagans just use the modern Gregorian calendar. Just many mark the metaphorical passing of the year on a different date. 🤔

Also different types of paganism have been around for different time periods. The winter celebration of Yule/Solstice is mostly universal in anglo-saxon root pagan groups, but there's a lot of those with no one unified church, and they all practice traditions from somewhat different time periods, regions and with different levels of historical accuracy. For example Celtic reconstructionists celebrate the passing of the new year on Samhain - Halloween. Those who celebrate proto-germanic or Norse paganism celebrate the new year on Yule. Modern anglo-saxon root pagans have mixed practices and chose one or the other based on what they feel best fits their practice. There's so much cross pollination between the anglo saxon traditions it's hard to see where one ends and another starts. It would be impossible to count. It's a fluid experience, both historically and in modern practice.

It's worth noting that there's other pagan midwinter/december traditions - like Haola and Saturnalia - that are celebrated still that aren't anglo-saxon as well. They may have their own calendars. And many people lump native traditions and diasporic practices like voodoo in with paganism and they may or may not have their own calendars as well.
 
Some years ago I was part of a small working group which spanned the globe. For the holidays/Christmas we did an international gift exchange. I've sent gifts to other countries as well as received gifts from other countries.
One of the most thoughtful gifts I have ever received was from a person with deep Norse traditions and pagan practices. And it had a far deeper meaning than any of the traditional things most here in the US do.

Since then I have learned a lot more about pagan history and specifically Scandi, which holds the largest part of my mutt heritage. It's truly fascinating how much of our lives today is actually pagan influenced and people in general have no idea!

@ChocolateMouse CM, your traditions sound lovely. Thank you for sharing. I wish more people would think about why we (general we) do what we do and the meaning behind it. Giving can be so very rewarding when done with the proper mind set. 💓
 
Yes! We're poorer for staying isolated in the world and thinking everyone else should adapt to us. Connecting with people who see life differently and have other ways of approaching things expands and frees us so much!

Even other languages make us think about things differently. For example, I think English enables us to see gender more equally (I know we struggle but we try) while I suspect the Romance languages that divide everything in the world into gender make the idea of equality harder to wrap a mind around much less to achieve. And Romance languages have their reflexive verbs that force us to take more responsibility for our lives. I used to tell my kids that if they had been born French they'd have to say "I bore myself" instead of "I'm bored". When you say "I bore myself" it's so clear that it's a problem you have to take hold of and resolve yourself. They hated that! ...but they got the point.
 
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Haha, thanks! It's a wild and emotional ride. XD I cry a lot every year. I get why it's not for everyone, but it means a lot to me and I'm proud to celebrate it!
I bet! It sounds like an emotional kind of day! Especially this year I bet! That’s awesome though! ❤️
 
The 1918 influenza epidemic, way worse than now. In the USA, about 103 million people, and 675000 died of influenza those years. Mostly young people, unlike now with C-19. Worldwide, about 50 million people infected, with a 10% death rate.
Not as bad as plague in Europe in the middle ages, but terrible.
We have much better knowledge about diseases, and better medical care, part of the reason we're doing better. And C-19 vaccines!
Every so often, Mother Nature throws something at us, and we need to respond responsibly.
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I've been reading a book about the 1500s, where in England, they had "the sweating sickness". This sickness arrived during the warm weather months most years between 1485 and 1551! Imagine a plague that goes on for 76 years! It vanished without explanation. According to wikipedia, " The onset of symptoms was sudden, with death often occurring within hours. Sweating sickness epidemics were unique compared to other disease outbreaks of the time. Where other epidemics were typically urban and long-lasting, cases of sweating sickness spiked and receded very quickly and heavily affected rural populations. Its cause remains unknown."

People were literally fine in the morning and dead by nightfall; entire households. We think we have it bad now ....
 
I've been reading a book about the 1500s, where in England, they had "the sweating sickness". This sickness arrived during the warm weather months most years between 1485 and 1551! Imagine a plague that goes on for 76 years! It vanished without explanation. According to wikipedia, " The onset of symptoms was sudden, with death often occurring within hours. Sweating sickness epidemics were unique compared to other disease outbreaks of the time. Where other epidemics were typically urban and long-lasting, cases of sweating sickness spiked and receded very quickly and heavily affected rural populations. Its cause remains unknown."

People were literally fine in the morning and dead by nightfall; entire households. We think we have it bad now ....
I just did a quick search on the "sweating sickness "... and it was fascinating. Although the disease has shown up repeatedly in Europe - often a 100+ years apart and all show similar symptoms, no one knows the vector (or carrier/cause.) Today it is speculated that it may have been a hantavirus. If you're up for a technical read, this was pretty interesting ... and more than a bit scary, given today's pandemic.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...sweating sickness caused,, in 1718, in France.
 
Just in case anybody needs it. ❤️🥰 here is their Instagram too and I think they have a FB page too but idk.

https://instagram.com/rocksofjoy?igshid=1k0izdikuztqy

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