Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Ninjasquirrel]

Low vitamin D can indeed make you feel horrific. I was extremely deficient for years and it took a new doctor joining the surgery to look through my blood tests results and say ‘um, so has anyone told you your vitamin D level is basically non existent?’ I went on 60,000iu for like 6 weeks and have to get another course from time to time. Some people have trouble making/absorbing it from their food or sunlight.

Its truly amazing that I havent caught covid with my levels. I think I might have had it but I never lost taste, smell or any of that. I just had a couple of days where I felt crappy and then had a "sick poo". Ive been exposed to it several times. My sister had it in january of 2020 before they had the test. Her doctor just shrugged and told her she probably just has a really bad flu. Then she had me bring her eggs while she worked from home.

 

[Canina]

Its truly amazing that I havent caught covid with my levels. I think I might have had it but I never lost taste, smell or any of that. I just had a couple of days where I felt crappy and then had a "sick poo". Ive been exposed to it several times. My sister had it in january of 2020 before they had the test. Her doctor just shrugged and told her she probably just has a really bad flu. Then she had me bring her eggs while she worked from home.

I might have had it. I was homeless than had a live in job during the first lockdown. I’m asthmatic. No masks, no social distancing, we were taking on new livery horses and randoms were coming to take care of/ride their horses multiple times a day sharing all of our equipment with no hand sanitiser, we were still going on hacks, running riding lessons and training for competitions including jumping, coworkers were bringing their family to work because they were bored and the other girl who shared my accommodation went to see her family in Italy in the middle of it. I had a continuous cough and wheezing to the point of vomiting on and off from October 2019 to May 2020. I slept maybe 6 hours a week working 60 hours a week and ended up having a complete breakdown. My employer called an ambulance and I was removed all because she refused to furlough me to allow me to shield after already making me use up all my leave and vacation days to do my apprenticeship coursework. Ugh. They cut my pay first because I was useless whilst sick (paid less than $250 for the month) then just got rid of me.

I don’t recall ever losing my sense of taste or smell though. Then again I lived on a stableyard.

 

[heatherbeast]

So...what does that means in terms of what you said previously?

There are a couple of things it means.

A.) From a strictly science perspective, medicines that have been used for worms would need to go through clinical trials to confirm that they can be used to fight infections from viruses. Right now, people using medicines like doxycycline, ivermectin, and hydroxycloroquine to treat viral infections like CoVID-19 are doing so based on limited evidence of the medicines directly stopping the virus.

B.) From a risk perspective, the illnesses for which drugs like hydroxycloroquine, ivermectin, and doxyclyine are prescribed can result in organ damage. In situations like this, the risk of injury from the medicine are considered either less likely or less serious than certain infection with these parasites. Any eyesight damage or organ damage that may come from these medicines is considered less risky than the effects of the parasite infection.

C.) Following B, we have vastly better prescription-only medicines for stopping anti-inflammatory responses here state-side.

 

[heatherbeast]

If we’re too physiologically different to take a drug that is actually prescribed for human use why the hell do we bother with animal testing for anything?

You be a lab rat if you want. I remember what they said about thalidomide being safe. I’m black and remember what happened in Tuskegee.

I actually do want to address this. In grad school Toxicology, we were taught that there is a traditional 1000-fold margin of safety worked into dosing for huamns versus animals. A factor of 10 to account for animals vs. humans. A factor of 10 to account for the wide genetic variation seen in humans vs. lab animals. A factor of 10 to account for the differences in habits, lifestyles, and environment between different populations of humans. Granted, science has come a long way in the past few decades and you can actually order bespoke mice and rats who have entire tissue and organ systems that function like a human's: https://www.taconic.com/find-your-model/humanized-mice/

FDA rejected the use of thalidomide by pregnant women back in the 1960s on the advice of a woman named Frances Kelsey. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/scie...america-and-epidemic-birth-defects-180963165/

The Tuskegee study is absolutely infamous in its breach of medical ethics. The Belmont Report, issued in 1980, is meant to address this travesty. We have hours of documented training these days to prove that we know about it, and to document that we know. CDC as an agency has suffered greatly under the past and current presidencies, both of which have prioritized 'keep everything normal we gotta keep stockholders happy' over the well-being of working class citizens.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

I might have had it. I was homeless than had a live in job during the first lockdown. I’m asthmatic. No masks, no social distancing, we were taking on new livery horses and randoms were coming to take care of/ride their horses multiple times a day sharing all of our equipment with no hand sanitiser, we were still going on hacks, running riding lessons and training for competitions including jumping, coworkers were bringing their family to work because they were bored and the other girl who shared my accommodation went to see her family in Italy in the middle of it. I had a continuous cough and wheezing to the point of vomiting on and off from October 2019 to May 2020. I slept maybe 6 hours a week working 60 hours a week and ended up having a complete breakdown. My employer called an ambulance and I was removed all because she refused to furlough me to allow me to shield after already making me use up all my leave and vacation days to do my apprenticeship coursework. Ugh. They cut my pay first because I was useless whilst sick (paid less than $250 for the month) then just got rid of me.

I don’t recall ever losing my sense of taste or smell though. Then again I lived on a stableyard.

So sorry this happened to you. Were you able to find permanent lodging? I feel for those less than fortunate like yourself because Ive been there. Now I donate once a month to my local pantry because I know what its like to be poor

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

There are a couple of things it means.

A.) From a strictly science perspective, medicines that have been used for worms would need to go through clinical trials to confirm that they can be used to fight infections from viruses. Right now, people using medicines like doxycycline, ivermectin, and hydroxycloroquine to treat viral infections like CoVID-19 are doing so based on limited evidence of the medicines directly stopping the virus.

B.) From a risk perspective, the illnesses for which drugs like hydroxycloroquine, ivermectin, and doxyclyine are prescribed can result in organ damage. In situations like this, the risk of injury from the medicine are considered either less likely or less serious than certain infection with these parasites. Any eyesight damage or organ damage that may come from these medicines is considered less risky than the effects of the parasite infection.

C.) Following B, we have vastly better prescription-only medicines for stopping anti-inflammatory responses here state-side.

My husband believes in the ivermectin treatment and I myself am a skeptic. I wont take anything not prescribed by my doctor because...im not a doctor. He said its called "the sunday pill" in some countries because of all the parasites. I dont trust his sources but its not worth arguing with him. I'll approach that if he gets covid and decides to take it.

 

[heatherbeast]

My husband believes in the ivermectin treatment and I myself am a skeptic. I wont take anything not prescribed by my doctor because...im not a doctor. He said its called "the sunday pill" in some countries because of all the parasites. I dont trust his sources but its not worth arguing with him. I'll approach that if he gets covid and decides to take it.

Honestly, a tapered steroid dose, if it's safe for him as an individual to take, would work a LOT better. He's not taking ivermectin prophylactially (just in case when you aren't sick yet) is he? Because if he was, that would be just downright silly.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Honestly, a tapered steroid dose, if it's safe for him as an individual to take, would work a LOT better. He's not taking ivermectin prophylactially (just in case when you aren't sick yet) is he? Because if he was, that would be just downright silly.

Oh no definately not. Hes been tired lately but no other symptoms of illness. Im the sick one around here. Still no word yet from my dr. Guessing she'll call aroubd lunch time. Trying not to think about so I vacuumed the whole house, put a load of laundry in and got out some chicken for dinner. Pondering my next venture now. By the time I'm well my house will be spotless

 

[heatherbeast]

Oh no definately not. Hes been tired lately but no other symptoms of illness. Im the sick one around here. Still no word yet from my dr. Guessing she'll call aroubd lunch time. Trying not to think about so I vacuumed the whole house, put a load of laundry in and got out some chicken for dinner. Pondering my next venture now. By the time I'm well my house will be spotless

Everyone eats a peck of dirt in their lives. The bacteria that live in dirt and water usually are not much trouble, it's MOSTLY the ones that come from other humans that give us grief.

I also don't mean to derail the thread too much. I'll shush for the next few moments.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Everyone eats a peck of dirt in their lives. The bacteria that live in dirt and water usually are not much trouble, it's MOSTLY the ones that come from other humans that give us grief.

Very well put. My mother always said "god made dirt and dirt dont hurt". You put it a lot more eloquently however