Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[velvetkeith]

Ivermectin was developed as a medicine for people. It's used to treat river blindness, scabies and other illnesses caused by parasites. It won the Nobel Prize for medicine in 2015 for the amazing , life changing effects it's had on people around the world. We're blessed in the West, and in the USA in particular, in that we don't suffer from scabies, river blindness, malaria, etc.

Over a BILLION people have taken ivermectin for its antiparasitic effects. It has saved hundreds of millions of people from disease all over the world. It is prescribed to people immigrating to the US as refugees from some parts of the globe in their intake and vaccination regimen.

It's a shame that many people- including me- have to resort to misusing a medication meant for a horse in order to get an extremely common (in other countries) medicine is truly a shame. The nation of India, where ivermectin is a bogglingly common prescription, understands Ivermectin's viral suppression properties and, when our CDC was wrestling with whether to incorporate it as part of the Covid protocol, volunteered to give our government a BILLION doses.

I'm not an antivaxxer. I'm fully vaccinated- against measles, mumps, rubella, tetanus, hepatitis and some other stuff. I'm an antiTHISvaxxer. The CDC had to change their definition of "vaccine" to justify continuing to use that word to call it that.

How many threads on this site have suggested using fish antibiotics on their fowl? Yes, I understand that rolling the dice on the life of a chicken or duck with an off-label use of a drug is different than me using horse meds but, if it came down to dying from an infected wound or eating a regimen of fish antibiotics, are there many that wouldn't tear open those little foil packets of FishMox and sprinkle that stuff right into their mouth? Or, if you were watching your child gasp for breath in a battle with pneumonia, would you use FishCillin if there were no other choice? That's how I, as a chubby, middle aged diabetic man felt when I was facing a disease that the media, the government and many of you view as the greatest threat to life right now.

To the person who said the 1 in 7,500,000 odds are good unless you're that one, I play those odds every time I go to work. Every time I cross the street. Every time I open my eyes to greet a new day, my odds of dying by something other than old age are greater than those of a healthy child dying from Covid. Anyone who counts covid as the main threat to their child shouldn't have a dog in their house. It's a greater statistical threat. Or a swimming pool (*recoils in horror*). Or let the kid ride a bike, or go to the park, or eat hot dogs, or peanut butter.

You're attacking the choice I made in my own self care, a choice which literally affects only me. Go ahead and poke the "but you could end up going to the hospital and costing us all money for your care" button. Well, if you have the self-appointed authority to criticize the life choices I make and their possible effects on the cost of health care, pardon me as I slap the Twinkie out of your hand. Or the cigarette. Or alcohol. Or the couch-destroying lifestyle where you wear a groove in the linoleum between the fridge, TV and sofa. Or whatever activity (or lack of same) that has a negative impact on your health.

God bless you all who are willing to take all the info presented to you, weigh it to the best of your abilities, and make your own decisions without being browbeaten into compliance by a "because I said so" authoritarian. YOU have the right to assess your own health needs and pursue them as YOU see fit- whether that's by vax or by crystals or by veterinary medicine. Your choice. Your health is the ultimate "till death do is part" thing; don't be bullied into anything you don't want, and don't be bullied into not doing what you think is best for yourself. This is forever. At death's door, I'd rather look back and reflect "well, this is all my doing" and not "why did I let them..."

But that's just me. My wife chose me, in part, because that spirit matches hers.

Finally, there are a notable number of people in my life who've gotten the two initial shots and the booster, and are eagerly waiting for the day they can get another booster (or two. Two!) to ward off the eeeevil Omicron. Or the newer variant "stealth Omicron", a virus so insidious that the infected will have NO symptoms, or symptoms so mild that they could be overlooked. The REAL danger of Stealth Omicron is you COULD pass it to someone who could get really sick from it, so just take the shots. Shots for infinity. Infinity shots, forever.

I will not get into that boxcar.

The was very well said. I guess as someone who has face my own death and decided that I’m okay with it when the time comes (heart valve issue) I have a different perspective. I Agee with your thought process each should have their own choice. I chose not to have surgery, it’s my choice.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Good morning everybody. Lots to catch up on here. I see there has been some concern over a certain treatment for c19. My stance is that we all have a choice when it comes to our healthcare and unless you are doctor you do not have the right to suggest if a treatment is safe or not and that includes here. Thats why all those prescription commercials say "ask your doctor if Thiscouldkillyoutal is right for you".

Daily covid news:
We are currently seeing a "winter surge" of covid with the variant delta being the only concern.
A congressman received death threats for suggesting a bill that if you get covid youre footing the bill

Thats all I saw on the news. Will check later on the compy. Just waiting for the sun to rise. I freakin hate winter

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Ok, here's what I found on the compy:

• New study awaiting a peer review suggests that covid can infect fat cells to increase inflammation and possible death.
• Be prepared for mink fur to be cheap...Denmark's government just killed 17 million of them for fear they could spread Covid
• Moderna claims to have fewer breakthrough cases but higher risk of myocarditis in young men

 

[heatherbeast]

I don't understand why, after nearly 2 years into this, people still don't understand asymptomatic carriage.

Prevention of infectious disease has always been considered a superior approach than treatment. "Ounce of prevention, pound of cure," etc.

I'm also not completely clear on why laypeople would consider invertebrates such as helminths and the causative agent of schistosomiasis to be comparable to viruses.

I also don't understand people moaning about states' and federal mandates not working. Of course they didn't, they weren't done properly. None of our politicians have the spine to put public health far enough ahead of profit to enact proper cordon sanitaire. A large enough population of 'self-educated' folks out there, also decided they knew better, and somehow also decided that subject matter experts were authoritarians. Of course it failed. It LIVES here, and honestly has been since May of 2020.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

My dr is more than likely calling me today. I checked my test results online and its not good. My thyroid is fine at least that. I wouldn't say any of it is through the roof necessarily but definitely abnormal. Kinda worried I have asymptomatic covid. My husband has been exceptionally tired as of late. My white blood cells and red blood cells are high. Either way I'm not going anywhere today until I hear from my doctor. Could also be that I HAD covid and this is my body responding to it. Whether or not I know I'm sick of being and feeling sick. It took me forever to get this appointment and I have good insurance. I probably should have dealt with this years ago but I didn't have insurance. And when I did, I feel that my doctor ignored my concerns regarding this due to my panic disorder. I like my new doctor. She listens.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

I'm also not completely clear on why laypeople would consider invertebrates such as helminths and the causative agent of schistosomiasis to be comparable to viruses.

Laypeople can't be clear on that because laypeople have no idea what you just said.

 

[heatherbeast]

Laypeople can't be clear on that because laypeople have no idea what you just said.

Lemme know which parts you want to know more about.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Lemme know which parts you want to know more about.

What are helminths and what is schistosomiasis?

 

[Beer can]

They should hang this too:
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[Folly's place]

Worms! Not viruses!