Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[fuzzi]

Breaking News! FDA was not authorized to instruct people to not take Ivermectin.

https://breakingheadlines.news/rF5TgO

The FDA during the COVID-19 pandemic has issued multiple statements discouraging people from taking ivermectin against COVID-19.

Accompanied by a picture of a horse and a link to an FDA webpage on ivermectin, the agency wrote in one social media post: “You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y’all. Stop it.”

The page it linked to is titled, "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19."

Three doctors sued the FDA over its statements on ivermectin, arguing the agency cannot advise doctors on which drugs to prescribe.

Ivermectin is approved by the agency as an antiparasitic drug for both humans and animals.

Federal law gives the government immunity against legal actions, with some exceptions. One exception, known as ultra vires, is when an official acts outside their authority. Plaintiffs challenging the acts must show that the official was "acting ‘without any authority whatever,’ or without any ‘colorable basis for the exercise of authority,'" according to an earlier court ruling.

The FDA does have the authority to share data and facts, the parties agree. But they diverge on whether the FDA can issue recommendations on medical matters, such as treatments.

The FDA has claimed that the posts do not contain advice, stating in one brief that they were "informational statements" that "do not ‘direct’ consumers, or anyone else, to do or refrain from doing anything.” At the same time, the FDA acknowledged that the statements "provided recommendations" and "advise[d] consumers."

"Despite these concessions, FDA never points to any authority that allows it to issue recommendations or give medical advice," Judge Willett wrote.

"Rather, FDA argues that some posts included a hyperlink that leads to the update. The update, in turn, directs consumers to “[t]alk to your health care provider.” But not all of the social-media posts included such a link. And even for those posts that did include a link, the posts themselves offer advice, not mere information."

The update itself is problematic because of its title, "Why You Should Not Use Ivermectin to Treat or Prevent COVID-19," the judge said. Even though it later says that people can take ivermectin if prescribed by a health care provider, "the trailing qualifier does not lessen the opening instruction’s imperative character," he said.
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Dr. Robert Apter, one of the plaintiffs, called the ruling "a big win for doctors and for patients!"

 

[RebelFord81]

Breaking News! FDA was not authorized to instruct people to not take Ivermectin.

https://breakingheadlines.news/rF5TgO

Breaking news... the FDA doesn't know their head from their nether regions either... just saying lol

 

[h2oratt]

We are home.. long drive. It is always nice to get home.

 

[h2oratt]

We are home.. long drive. It is always nice to get home.

Oops wrong thread.

 

[fuzzi]

Oops wrong thread.

No problem, glad you made it okay.

 

[fuzzi]

I knew that vaccines were incubated in chicken eggs, but was unaware of the particulars:

https://drtenpenny.substack.com/p/disgusting-chicken-stuff-in-vaccines

Half a million chicks?!? PER DAY?

 

[Pollo Blanco]

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I knew that vaccines were incubated in chicken eggs, but was unaware of the particulars:

https://drtenpenny.substack.com/p/disgusting-chicken-stuff-in-vaccines

Half a million chicks?!? PER DAY?

I thought that the bat flu jabs were mRNA?

 

[Brooks_]

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I thought that the bat flu jabs were mRNA?

I think fuzzi was posting in a more broad sense.

 

[fuzzi]

I think fuzzi was posting in a more broad sense.

Yep. There was some discussion of flu vaccines in the thread, thought it would be okay to add how many millions of chicks are used/abused in the process.

I thought they just grew viruses in eggs, didn't realize that they used fertilized eggs, nor what they did to the growing chicks.

 

[Molpet]

I thought they just grew viruses in eggs, didn't realize that they used fertilized eggs, nor what they did to the growing chicks.

Apparently used to be ferrets lungs.

They are working on other ways
https://www.news-medical.net/whitep...chicken-egg-influenza-vaccine-production.aspx