Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

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There is no willful denial, nor is there rampant feeding into it on my part either. With my scarred lungs and 3 duets with.pneumonia over the past 15 years, I AM in the at risk group. And yet, I still work everyday. I still keep people's spirits up. I find it comical that folks lambast those who do not "take this seriously". Define taking seriously, being aware and being hygenic while continuing to live, or holing up after an outing of hoarding from the supermarket?? I keep it in perspective because its true. How many die by suicide a year? By auto accident? By overdosing? People minimize those stats everyday, yet this new pandemic, while having killed over 8k has had 80k recoveries and something around 200k global cases, all of a sudden causes panic. You know what is more infectious than Covid-19?? Fear. Stealthy, silent but present fear. While home a good episode of Star Trek:TNG to watch would be "The Drumhead". It shows how much more damaging slowly rising panic is over initial causes. Don't take this as a personal diatribe or lashing out, just that I see folks starting to be fearful as if we were on the verge of nuclear war, and that is a dangerous thing.


I think your attitude and my own are very similar. I'm 73 and I'm still going out and doing my necessary errands. I've never been one to use hand sanitizer (I think -- in conventional circumstances -- it will breed more antibiotic resistant bacteria). I have my hands in the compost constantly. I handle the poo in my chickens' coop. ...and I can be fairly casual about whether or not I wash my hands after those things. I think using an immune system is building an immune system and an important part of preparing for something like this.

But, let's face it. Suicides and car accidents aren't contagious. I think this country takes an astoundingly callous attitude to how many gun-related deaths there are every year here, but, again, not contagious. This is a highly contagious virus. And we don't know the long term effects yet. Ebola, another but different corona virus, can stay in survivors eyeballs for years and re-emerge. That doesn't mean Covid-19 will have residual effects for survivors but We. Simply. Don't. Know. We need to be aware, informed, taking proper precautions AND be confident and opptomistic as we continue to do our best in this challenge.

I guess you've got it in hand but there are too many listening to a certain public individual who wants this to magically go away and is downplaying it deliberately to avoid responsibility. Those folks are demonizing the media for presenting information they need to have and to heed. There's a balance somewhere in there. We've all got to try to strike a healthy and a positive attitude for our own health and for one another.
 
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At the beginning I did think they were exaggerating. But as I hear of more cases from real people not the media then it becomes more believable.

I stay cooped up in my house and yard with my chickens so I rarely interact with the outside world since I’ve always disliked crowds. But I do believe some people need to calm down and think rationally instead of going crazy with it, while I believe others need to take it a little more serious and not go out and congregate. Balance is needed in situations like these.

(I also do believe that every time something major makes the news that there is something just as important that isn’t being shared, what? I don’t know.)
 
It's not that I think the rich shouldn't get tested. It's that I think everyone should be able. I think I'm wrong about rich people getting it being the only reason it's a big deal. Countries with a lot more healthcare equity/less poverty than America are also treating this with severity, and the infection and death rate does seem unusually high.

It seems like the government is getting a little more on top of this and more aware of the ramifications for the average working person.

The last I've heard is the tests are still few and far between and very expensive for those without insurance, and the treatment is very expensive even for those who have good insurance, while unaffordable for those without. Is that correct? No one in my immediate family or that I know in my small community has been hospitalized yet, so I don't have any personal knowledge.

Obviously a lot of people have been laid off or lost hours already, and so might have financial concerns. That's before even factoring in the potential cost of getting sick.
I agree that income shouldn't matter. So why does the NBA get tested before regular people get tested? Not quite fair in my opinion. Those resources would sure come in handy in other areas that need them.
 
Don't forget your kitchen scraps. Any potatoes that are sprouting. Any veg that's gone too soft to be palatable for your table. All the root and blossom ends you cut off and the peels you remove. There might be some weeds in your garden that you could pull to give them.

I give my chickens the canned cat food that my cat doesn't finish overnight.
No cats ergo not cat food, but I've been doing the kitchen scraps and garden scraps for over 15 years. There are a few no nos- No raw potatoes or potato peels (sweet potato peels are ok) and no avocado skins, but everything else is fair game, in moderation.

Apples can disrupt the laying cycle, and too many apple seeds can be mildly toxic, but ohmygosh...anyone with kids knows the insane amount of foods that hit the floor in a day. Or the couch. Or the floor And the couch.
Cheerios...I'm talking to you! 🤨
 
I think your attitude and my own are very similar. I'm 73 and I'm still going out and doing my necessary errands. I've never been one to use hand sanitizer (I think -- in conventional circumstances -- it will breed more antibiotic resistant bacteria). I have my hands in the compost constantly. I handle the poo in my chickens' coop. ...and I can be family casual about whether or not I wash my hands after those things. I think using an immune system is building an immune system and an important part of preparing for something like this.

But, let's face it. Suicides and car accidents aren't contagious. I think this country takes an astoundingly callous attitude to how many gun-related deaths there are every year here, but, again, not contagious. This is a highly contagious virus. And we don't know the long term effects yet. Ebola, another but different corona virus, can stay in survivors eyeballs for years and re-emerge. That doesn't mean Covid-19 will have residual effects for survivors but We. Simply. Don't. Know. We need to be aware, informed, taking proper precautions AND confident as we continue to do our best in this challenge.

I guess you've got it in hand but there are too many listening to a certain public individual who wants this to magically go away and is downplaying it deliberately to avoid responsibility. Those folks are demonizing the media for presenting information they need to have and to heed. There's a balance somewhere in there. We've all got to try to strike its and a healthy positive attitude for our own health and for one another.
The funny thing is, I have always washed hands and whatnot, but my pre-deployment brief for Djibouti ramped that up a million. It seems folks are only FINALLY catching up to what some like myself have been doing for years upon years now. Why are all the soaps and sanitizers gone now?? What were folks using before?? And, half the national cases of this are centered in one area of Washington State, that right there is rather interesting, however it seems to rarely if ever be mentioned. Also, when you have something like CNN running a strip saying Covid-19 is 10x potentially deadlier than the flu while the CDC stated it isn't, that is total fear pandering. Wisdom, steadiness, and calm, fact based outlook are what the times call for, not tallysheets of what is closed or how far the stock market is going down.

Sadly suicide is VERY contagious as depression rises. The big upswing in gun violence you hear about has a very interesting correlation with our society becoming more overworked and children becoming more depressed. Suicide rates are rising, but it is not easy to sensationalize that. Same with the dramatic rise in Autism, also something mainstream media has never pointed out but which is on a much more dramatic and concerning rise than Covid-19, and is now 1 in 26 or 28 kids being diagnosed with it. All this is why I am curious why a virus with less than 200 deaths here can halt a nation of over 300 million almost overnight.
 
No cats ergo not cat food, but I've been doing the kitchen scraps and garden scraps for over 15 years. There are a few no nos- No raw potatoes or potato peels (sweet potato peels are ok) and no avocado skins, but everything else is fair game, in moderation.

Apples can disrupt the laying cycle, and too many apple seeds can be mildly toxic, but ohmygosh...anyone with kids knows the insane amount of foods that hit the floor in a day. Or the couch. Or the floor And the couch.
Cheerios...I'm talking to you! 🤨
I would not feed my chickens green potatoes but I have fed multitudes of birds ripe raw potato peelings for 1/2 century with no ill effects.
 
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