Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[ErnieBerley]

Most stores are short on EGGS now..... I bet we're not !!! benefits of chicken raising !! and i'm so glad i live out in rural western NC on a 2 mile dead end road ! Luckily not much has changed for me, I work at home anyway. Except venturing to the grocery store is sketchy now ...

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

Sorry, but most of your information is incorrect.

Exactly what is incorrect? Be specific because it looks pretty spot on to me.

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

we all have our own thoughts

I guess, but there is only one set of facts.

 

[seminolewind]

I know this is long but I listened to it last night on VOX . I had to pick my jaw up off the floor. This morning I had to hunt for the article on Yahoo even tho this should be a top story. President Trump was also notified. I saw the words come out of Jared's mouth so this is first hand.
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Florida emergency management official says 3M selling masks to foreign countries: 'We're chasing ghosts'
The head of Florida's Division of Emergency Management has accused U.S. mask manufacturer 3M of shipping the critical protective equipment to foreign countries who outbid U.S. buyers -- even as hospitals and state officials desperately scramble to secure N95 protective masks for healthcare workers on the frontlines of the coronavirus pandemic.

Jared Moskowitz told "Tucker Carlson Tonight" Thursday that he discovered that 3M distributors were prioritizing foreign buyers after they refused to sell him the essential equipment

The idea that an American company is selling masks away from our hospitals...doctors...the real heroes on the front lines is... really criminal."

— Jared Moskowitz

"For the last several weeks, we have had a boiler room chasing down 3M authorized distributors [and] brokers representing that they sell the N95 masks, only get to warehouses that are completely empty," Moskowitz said. "[We are] being told that our shipments are on cargo planes and the flights don't even appear. We are chasing ghosts. I just decided to turn up the heat and tell people what is actually happening in the N95 mask space."

Moskowitz claimed to have reached out to many 3M authorized distributors in the United States to confirm his suspicions, and said he was shocked to find American companies quietly partnering with foreign buyers at a time of national crisis.

"They're specifically saying, 'Listen, we are sorry your order got pushed down, but ... there are foreign countries who do business differently and they're showing up with cash.'"

Moskowitz said he has a hard time grappling with "the idea that an American company is selling masks away from our hospitals, away from our doctors ... away from the real heroes on the front lines" and called for investigations into what he described as "criminal" activity.

"I can't... get this life-saving PPE because a company decided to make a globalist decision and not put America first."

"I can't, other emergency management directors, CEOs of hospitals can't get this life-saving PPE [Personal Protective Equipment] because a company decided to make a globalist decision and not put America first."


Moskowitz voiced his frustrations on Twitter and said he was later contacted by the communications team at Minnesota-based 3M, who admitted to a "broken system" but stopped short of taking action.

"I thought perhaps maybe what 3M would finally say to me is that they have masks to sell me, but what I actually found out is even more frightening," he explained. "... Which is that the system is completely broken. 3M has lost total control. What I asked 3M is, are they aware they're authorized distributors -- U.S. companies -- are telling me the reason why our orders are being pushed down is because foreign countries are showing up with cash to purchase the orders ... not only did they not dispute it, [but] I asked them if they put out any guidance to prevent the behavior and the answer was no," Moskowitz added.

3M told Moskowitz that they had no stock to sell him, despite producing close to 10 million masks a day,

" I said ... 'I have money and I'd like to purchase some of those.' They said I couldn't, they have no masks to sell me. It's criminal what is happening."

Moskowitz emphasized that his criticism is not directed towards the "workers in the factories at 3M who are working 24 hours a day to try to create this life-saving PPE. This is about the executives who decided not to put America first and it's going to have devastating consequences."

The official said he offered to pay "ten, sometimes twenty" times of the standard price of the masks, but was denied.

"3M is an ice cream store that doesn't sell ice cream."
— Jared Moskowitz

"Since when do we have a U.S. company that sells masks and I try to offer them money and they don't sell them to me? I have to go through their authorized distributors and their only excuse is that they don't have a perfect system.

"I'm relegated to making deals with brokers at costs that are ten and sometimes 20 times the actual costs of these masks, [but] at the end of the day, regardless of the cost of this point, getting the mask is the most important and we can't even get them."

Earlier in the week, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said his state was on the hunt for N95 masks and called the procurement process "shady as hell," adding that despite ordering "so many," they only get a little bit here and a little bit there.”

 

[2 many chickens]

That's pretty messed up.
I saw a video last night of some chinese people rubbing their dirty shoes all over surgical masks that they're making and sending to us. How horrible is that?

 

[igorsMistress]

I don’t remember if it was in 2018 or early 2019 but Homeland Security came out with a long document urging its citizens to be prepared for 2 weeks at the least and up to 6 months of storing food and water and necessities in the case they wouldn’t be able to go to the store due to a catastrophe. But only a small amount listened and stocked up way before this virus was even heard of. That’s why people went crazy with over stocking, had they stocked ages ago they wouldn’t be in this situation. (At least the ones with extra money to have stocked back then, I know not everyone has the money to stock up for months).

Edited to add: it was back in December 2018 when this came out. Here’s the link to that advisory:

https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/NIAC Catastrophic Power Outage Study_FINAL.pdf

Yes I remember that.
I didn't have a lot of money to stock up all at once. I bought extra of the things we use when they were on sale or when I had extra money for one reason or another. People need to think outside the box...maybe I can't do all right now, but what can I do to be better off than I am now? And apply tgese things to every possible situation, not just a power outage or bad storm.

 

[igorsMistress]

I guess, but there is only one set of facts.

Sure, and people filter those differently. You say tomayto I say tomahtoe

 

[seminolewind]

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That's pretty messed up.
I saw a video last night of some chinese people rubbing their dirty shoes all over surgical masks that they're making and sending to us. How horrible is that?

They are probably the masks they purchased from 3M , repackaged, and sold back to us.

 

[seminolewind]

just the CEO from distribution at 3M. Of course no one will admit to knowing whats happening. As usual, it's pass the buck.

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

Sure, and people filter those differently.

And some people just deny the facts that do not fit their worldview.