Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[chicken pickin]

Do any of you think that by using our CL Roos and Hens crossed with other breeds will allow us to see what traits good or bad are passed to the offspring and will that knowledge of those passed traits help to better pair our pure CLs together for a better outcome? Or is that completely null because of it being a cross?

 

[CibolaChooks]

No, I was trying to make a case on how would a would still have a cream/yellow headspot

not only the males, the females also have that Dilution, it could be dominant dilute or Cream, so far I have yet to study them other than their chick down and e allele...
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/49704_njgroup.jpg

but we were talking about a cross and you referred to some pure bred genetics.


the headspot on eb/eb B/B males is much larger than the ones found on e+/e+ male chicks(CCL, Rhodebar, Welbars)

pure eb/eb Barred males or eb/eb B/b+ males do have a cream headspot,

im not so sure that the e+/eb cross(CCLxGLW) would produce the same kinds of head spots or color of the head spot. the birds and pics you posted pictures of are the eb/eb B/B and eb/eb B/b+. As you can tell the picture of those other breeds have different looking head spots as well as a noticeable different shade of color than the crosses were talking about and even the CCL. Im thinking that a e+/eb can have ha head spot like familypendragons Chick. and Since we dont have an example to look at of an e+/eb then only time will tell if its a male or female. Assuming it is a viable sex link cross.

 

[CibolaChooks]

Do any of you think that by using our CL Roos and Hens crossed with other breeds will allow us to see what traits good or bad are passed to the offspring and will that knowledge of those passed traits help to better pair our pure CLs together for a better outcome? Or is that completely null because of it being a cross?

I think it can help. Obviously my roo has something in its genetics that makes an extended black hen produce chipmunk colored chicks. according to nicalandia my cross shouldn't produce that color of chick down. he thinks they should all be black. So if we were able to find out whats in the genetics of my CCL that makes two totally different colors of chicks in my barred cochin x i think it could be valuable to learn what our CCL actually have in them.

 

[nicalandia]

im not so sure that the e+/eb cross(CCLxGLW) would produce the same kinds of head spots or color of the head spot. the birds and pics you posted pictures of are the eb/eb B/B and eb/eb B/b+

then we will need to watch dont wee.... I think we would have our answere in about 2 to 3 weeks....

 

[DCchicken]

I think the bigger concern is unscrupulous people trying to sell Cream Legbar crosses as pure Cream Legbars. I ran across a Craigslist ad that was a copy of mine. The guy (or girl) even used pics of my CCLs as example photos of what the birds would look like a little more grown up. The ad was taken down on Craigslist but I wonder how many people paid full price for a CCL that was a fake.

***Edited because the letter "a" in the last sentence*****.

 

[chicken pickin]

That is a horrible thought. Tons of the CL hybrids look just like pure CL. Especially to those that don't know a whole lot about them. Some people are just thinking about the money I guess. I suppose people buying should do lots of research on a breed and ask the seller lots of questions before a purchase.

 

[flyingmonkeypoop]

Figured I'd chime in on the mutts being sold as pure topic. Genetically, the legbar x leghorn cross pullets I had were pure legbars, they just lacked cream. They look/breed pure and with chicken breeding, that is really what matters. But when people cross them to a breed that wasnt part of their breed history like a swedish flower hen or new hampshire and try to call them legbars, there is an issue

 

[familypendragon]

Do any of you think that by using our CL Roos and Hens crossed with other breeds will allow us to see what traits good or bad are passed to the offspring and will that knowledge of those passed traits help to better pair our pure CLs together for a better outcome? Or is that completely null because of it being a cross?

That might be a good point. Like I have lots of pullets with no crest. This roo had maybe the tiniest of crests - but it looks like the crosses may all develop crests. So that lets me know they could only have gotten it from him, not the mother. Is that kind of what you mean?

 

[chicken pickin]

That might be a good point. Like I have lots of pullets with no crest. This roo had maybe the tiniest of crests - but it looks like the crosses may all develop crests. So that lets me know they could only have gotten it from him, not the mother. Is that kind of what you mean?

Yes that is what I was thinking. I know it may not work fully since another breed is helping to determine some of the traits as well. But for instance my CL roo has a messy comb but so far his offspring have very straight combs so it helps me to know that it is possibly to fix that while still using him as my main roo. This was just a thought on looking to see if our CL pass their faults to the offspring. My CL pullets are still young and Im anxious to know what I will get when I pair them with my Roo. I am hoping for really good things with my trio.

 

[normanack]

Do any of you think that by using our CL Roos and Hens crossed with other breeds will allow us to see what traits good or bad are passed to the offspring and will that knowledge of those passed traits help to better pair our pure CLs together for a better outcome? Or is that completely null because of it being a cross?

I hope it will help. If not, it's still really interesting and can produce some pretty birds!

What I thought was interesting with this cross -- CL roo x buff-laced Polish hen (which I wrote about on another CL thread awhile back) is that the offspring were so consistent. Three males who were pretty much identical, and three females also identical. It was interesting to see how much chestnut/autosomal red/ginger/whatever that brown is called came through on the males.

Pullet -- who lays a very pale blue egg, gorgeous:


Roo, who inherited the crazy personality of his mother, which may or may not be relevant.