Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[RobG7aChattTN]

Here's my oldest hen from my project that I mentioned above. She doesn't have the rose comb.

And as a chick:

 

[southernhusky]

Here's my oldest hen from my project that I mentioned above. She doesn't have the rose comb.




And as a chick:

She's pretty almost splash like....call her a Lavender Paint

Since my earlier message I had 2 more hatch out. A Silkie(partridge looking down) and another out of a CM egg....still drying but silvery looking. It was kind of funny, when I first started setting some white silkie eggs and "light brown"(what I thought was silkie eggs but they were a little bigger, some of the silkie hens were bigger than others) but what had ended up happening is one of the sneaky splash marans instead of using the nestboxes like her sisters was laying on the other side of the chainlink and there was just enough room for the egg to end up with the silkies.

Finally caught her in the act when I cleared the dog crates/plywood away from the chainlink to build a pen. Was my first experience with silkie eggs LOL

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

I crossed a Cream Legbar rooster with a Black Star and this is what I got (sorry about the bad photos):








Some were black and some were varying amounts of chipmunk striped brown. Some had head spots and some did not. I was told that the head spots would not correlate to sex at all.

 

[southernhusky]

I crossed a Cream Legbar rooster with a Black Star and this is what I got (sorry about the bad photos):








Some were black and some were varying amounts of chipmunk striped brown. Some had head spots and some did not. I was told that the head spots would not correlate to sex at all.

Hmmm do you recall if all the blackish ones had head spots(from pics it looks like they all are)? Wondering if the reddish ones coloring affected whether or not they got head spots, I know with sex-links I read certain colors would mess up the "proper" coloring for sexing at hatch.

 

[RobG7aChattTN]

Hmmm do you recall if all the blackish ones had head spots(from pics it looks like they all are)? Wondering if the reddish ones coloring affected whether or not they got head spots, I know with sex-links I read certain colors would mess up the "proper" coloring for sexing at hatch.

I didn't get the best photos but some of the black ones had head spots but not all and some of the brown ones had head spots but not all. The pair that I saved were the striped ones...one with more defined stripes and no head spot and one with blurry stripes and a good head spot. They DID turn out to be male and female but that might have just been luck. I can't remember what their chicks loIke's like. The only chick that I saved was a cross of this rooster and a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte hen. She's Laced with a rose comb, crest and lays green eggs and I crossed her to a Lavender Orpington which produces all black chicks (the hens stay that way but the roosters get colorful neck and saddle feathers). Inbreeding the next generation produces black, Lavender, Lavender Laced and black with poor tan lacing.

 

[southernhusky]

I didn't get the best photos but some of the black ones had head spots but not all and some of the brown ones had head spots but not all. The pair that I saved were the striped ones...one with more defined stripes and no head spot and one with blurry stripes and a good head spot. They DID turn out to be male and female but that might have just been luck. I can't remember what their chicks loIke's like. The only chick that I saved was a cross of this rooster and a Blue Laced Red Wyandotte hen. She's Laced with a rose comb, crest and lays green eggs and I crossed her to a Lavender Orpington which produces all black chicks (the hens stay that way but the roosters get colorful neck and saddle feathers). Inbreeding the next generation produces black, Lavender, Lavender Laced and black with poor tan lacing.

Yeah I wish it was easier to figure out LOL. So far I've had 15 chicks hatch(4-5 of these were silkies) and the only ones with a noticeable headspot were 2 or 3 that I know hatched out of light brown eggs(so I know they were from either Blue Large Fowl Cochin hens OR a Dominique-who laid once a day- so all 3 could be hers and would auto sex as males I believe....its a small head spot so I doubt they would have been Dominique x Cream Legbar(in which case a chick would get barring gene from each parent? making me think the head spots would be bigger). Those were the only 3 light brown eggs I set with that batch. Rest are Silkies and Copper Maran eggs. Oh and these first 3 to hatch out of those eggs do not have any feathering on feet so makes it less likely they are from LF Cochin hens.

The CM eggs that have hatched have mostly been Bluish downed chicks and a couple greyish...will examine those more closely soon and get pictures. Those did have some feathering on feet.

 

[harmesonfarm]

Hello everyone!

Curious, as I couldn't find the answer in the thread or anywhere else...if anyone has a bred Cream Legbar rooster over an Ameraucana Hen?

Just wondering if you would get a more richer blue than the ameraucanas, and a good egg layer? Thanks.

 

[GaryDean26]

Aww it does sound like a fun but time consuming project.

Yes at this point I'm just trying to identify the Cream Legbar's offspring so I can sell some of the other mixed chicks that won't lay green. I would like some Green egg layers and I don't really want to keep them all and wait and see who lays....not that I don't have room, I've been building pens inside my barn its just that I'd like to only keep the chicks sired by him that *will* lay green if they aren't Roos.

The Cream Legbar X Araucana is a commercial hybrid in the UK. If I remember correctly its trade name is the Skyline. It may be the columbine which is another popular blue egg hybrid in the UK. I haven't look at these hybirds for several year and don't remember off the top of my head but you could search for information on these hybirds to see what egg color they have. No, you can't get better egg color by crossing Cream Legbars with Aruacana, Americana, Easter Eggers, etc. You improve egg color through selective breeding in a closed line.

The Developer of the Skyline was requested by the Cream Legbar club to write about his involvement in saving the Cream Legbar Breed from Extinction in the 80's. He said that after he had completed his recovery program for the cream legbar that he started experimenting with the hybirds and that he found that the best egg color came from crossing breeds with a cream colored egg with the Cream legbar. He said that white egg breeds produced very pale eggs that were not desirable at all. He didn't comment on crossing Araucana with the Legbar, but he did use an Araucana Hen at the beginning of his recovery program (along with a Gold Legbar Cockerel, A cream Legbar cockerel, and two Cream Legbar Hens) so he would have know how the Araucana cross came out and didn't feel that it was worth mentioning.


I don't know what type of egg color you get from the Ameraucana cross but assume that you would get better egg color from a pure Cream Legbar line selected for egg color than a crossed line. Every thing has to be staked up just right to get a well colored egg and when you cross lines you would undo the stacking so to speak. You could search for information in the UK on the Skylines and Columbines to see what the Araucana X Legbar egg look like.

 

[harmesonfarm]

The Cream Legbar X Araucana is a commercial hybrid in the UK. If I remember correctly its trade name is the Skyline. It may be the columbine which is another popular blue egg hybrid in the UK. I haven't look at these hybirds for several year and don't remember off the top of my head but you could search for information on these hybirds to see what egg color they have. No, you can't get better egg color by crossing Cream Legbars with Aruacana, Americana, Easter Eggers, etc. You improve egg color through selective breeding in a closed line.

The Developer of the Skyline was requested by the Cream Legbar club to write about his involvement in saving the Cream Legbar Breed from Extinction in the 80's. He said that after he had completed his recovery program for the cream legbar that he started experimenting with the hybirds and that he found that the best egg color came from crossing breeds with a cream colored egg with the Cream legbar. He said that white egg breeds produced very pale eggs that were not desirable at all. He didn't comment on crossing Araucana with the Legbar, but he did use an Araucana Hen at the beginning of his recovery program (along with a Gold Legbar Cockerel, A cream Legbar cockerel, and two Cream Legbar Hens) so he would have know how the Araucana cross came out and didn't feel that it was worth mentioning.


on't know what type of egg color you get but assume that you would get better egg color from a pure Cream Legbar line selected for egg color than a crossed line. Every think has to be staked up just right to get a well colored egg and when you cross lines you would undo the stacking so to speek. You could search for information in the UK ont he Skylines and Columbines to see which is the Auracana X Legbar (I think it

Thank you for the response, great info there. Your probably right, better to breed for egg colour than cross...now that you mention that it makes more sense.

 

[Amy King Hanson]

Hello everyone!


Curious, as I couldn't find the answer in the thread or anywhere else...if anyone has a bred Cream Legbar rooster over an Ameraucana Hen? 


Just wondering if you would get a more richer blue than the ameraucanas, and a good egg layer? Thanks.

I haven't experienced this but I found this post one time and maybe it'll help.