Cream Legbars

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Run again. He let me get up in his face. You can acually see his crest this close. It is there!
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posted closeups of his head up above showing the losing battle between crest and comb but here is his whole body. No gold wing patches showing on him at all yet (which is good for me) he will be 8 weeks old on Sat

 
I love calving season -- we had two (ETA Spring/Fall) -- the calves are so cute.... aww But you are working with dairy right? I was with beef...still cute little critters. Here's a pict from Chris09 of the OEGB Crele based on BBR This is a quality bird---that Chris posted...but the hatcheries sell similar (wide barring) looking Crele - they say sexability is 80% -- these are based on BBR (black breasted red)--- Very dark. http://www.cacklehatchery.com/images/crele_OEG_Bantam_hen.jpg Here's the Crele OEGB hen from cackle hatchery crele OEGB hen hatchery male from cackle when I first saw OEGB Crele male I thought it was single barred. At any rate - doubtless a lot of black pigment. Crele Leghorns - have a definite pattern where the duckwing shows up and what was solid black before becomes barred.... Upper left gold crele leghorn - lower right silver crele leghorn - and of course technically according to Scrivener the Cream legbar would be a Cream Crele - (Wild Type + Barring) I'm not 100% certain why the OEGB has such a different Crele pattern... but if it is based on wild-type then it is Crele.... btw David Scrivener is a Panel A poultry judge and is Chairman of the Rare Poultry Society. You can google the books he has written.....:O) [rule]Oh LQQK -- I just found photos of the chicks from OEGB That's from cackle's site. who could resist a chick? do you think the oegb grow up with the bars taking up more room because they are bantams? :gig sorry folks, I couldn't resist.
Here is an old post with gradient of gold dilution. I am on my phone so it can be hard to post things sometimes. Yes, my boys have a lot showing up on the wings.
 
Here is the closup of the crest on my boy


And a full shot




And a couple of pics of my girl

This is where Im starting. Also have him covering a couple of blue egg laying EE's to help increase the blue egg laying at my place.
 
if my guy is going to get gold wing patches, when will they start to appear?
His father barely has them at all
It has been a while since I grow out cockerels (like two years since I moved at the beginning of last summer), but the 9 week old group of cockerels that I sorted last week didn't show them yet. I think it is about 14 weeks when they will start to show. Your guy already has his sickle feathers in though so he is past the point where he would get gold wing patches.
 
I haven't really been on this thread in a long time, so I'm trying to catch up on some pages. Anyway, hello again!
Just wanted to share a couple pics of my favorite breeders. I LOVE this roo for breeding, but he's such an a-hole! (His tail isn't always that high, he was on alert. lol)


And my favorite girl. She's such a sweetie.
 
I haven't really been on this thread in a long time, so I'm trying to catch up on some pages. Anyway, hello again! Just wanted to share a couple pics of my favorite breeders. I LOVE this roo for breeding, but he's such an a-hole! (His tail isn't always that high, he was on alert. lol) And my favorite girl. She's such a sweetie.
I love the look of your birds. I will hopefully get some eggs from you in the future. I have 3 cream legbar Roos now that I will be culling. 2 are Jill Rees from GFF and 1 is from another breeder. None are what I'm looking for. I do have a few more growing out, they are still chicks though. I would be happy with a roo like yours. I have a pullet like yours but if you look closely it looks like her earlobes are a bit aqua colored. Here are a few pics of my legbars.
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Here is the closup of the crest on my boy


And a full shot




And a couple of pics of my girl

This is where Im starting. Also have him covering a couple of blue egg laying EE's to help increase the blue egg laying at my place.

I gotta be honest, that is one ugly huge comb in the top picture, It could be the way he is moving his head. Nice crest though in second picture.. What you are doing is good. I have done the same and have some 1/2 and 1/4 CLB and EEs. I get the great blue on larger eggs.







I have found the lighter roosters that do not get the duck wings do not have the best barring, some of it is indistinct and tends to not be "crisp". I would have never thought this important until last week when I went to a show/swap and brought a trio of CLB's to sell. they were about 4 months old. I took a rooster without the duck wings that looked a lot like rottlady's. The Judge and I were talking and he said whatever the proposed SOP's end up being, the barring will have to be "crisp" . He pointed out the areas on mine that were not as crisp as they should have been. When I got home and surveyed my own birds, I found the ones with the duck wings had the sharper barring.

I know we talked a little about show versus production or home flock birds. but once again it appears the SOP's are picking traits that work against each other and may not be that important over all.




Next question, for those of you hatching CLB chicks, are you finding the CLB's to be weaker than other breeds? I am a licensed NPIP hatchery, I hatch several breeds. I will not sell a weak bird, so I end up keeping the CLBs until they are older and selling them as started birds instead of chicks more often than the other breeds. Does anyone else find them weaker and more prone to failure to thrive than their other breeds?

Maybe I only notice this because I hatch so many birds and so many CLB's. Or maybe it is because my CLB's are the highest priced birds I sell that I notice it. I have been hatching 75-100 chicks a week since January and half are CLB.s.
 

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