Cream Legbars

[VTcreamlegbars]

Thank you!

 

[VTcreamlegbars]

@VTcreamlegbars I was wondering the same thing. The dark green egg on the bottom is a beautiful color, although it would be the greenest one I've ever seen if it is a CL.

The darker egg on the bottom (smaller too) is the one that threw me. I only have CCL, Two lines I hatched and the GFF ones new this year for some diversity of genetics. Why my new gals have only just started laying, today I got three small blue ones - though a tiny bit darker along with the bigger blue eggs from 2014 gals. So the green/olive must come from only a couple of the newer hens. It certainly is not the end of the world... At least I now know I have some from the GFF group laying blue. Must be GFF sends from different lines? Or perhaps it was the zucchini they got into the other day? LOL I have MUCH to learn.... buy you guys are the best!! Really appreciate all the feedback and discussion.

 

[KPenley]

Regarding egg color, the ideal color was chosen as blue since that's what we all started with and what we wanted (as well as what we thought Punnett intended, thank you Kathy!). Over time we came to realize that some people see shades of blue as green, and we decided as a club to add it to the standard almost 2 years before Rees line birds were made available in the USA. If there is enough interest in adding olive we can reopen discussions regarding that color, but I think most of us still prefer blue (with greenish blue a close second) and green over olive.

The Cream Legbar Standard is on draft 4, and it will be considered a draft until the final copy is voted on for approval and sent in to the APA the summer of 2018.

 

[sol2go]

The darker egg on the bottom (smaller too) is the one that threw me. I only have CCL, Two lines I hatched and the GFF ones new this year for some diversity of genetics. Why my new gals have only just started laying, today I got three small blue ones - though a tiny bit darker along with the bigger blue eggs from 2014 gals. So the green/olive must come from only a couple of the newer hens. It certainly is not the end of the world... At least I now know I have some from the GFF group laying blue. Must be GFF sends from different lines? Or perhaps it was the zucchini they got into the other day? LOL I have MUCH to learn.... buy you guys are the best!! Really appreciate all the feedback and discussion.

At the risk of repeating information, did all of your Rees-line CL come directly from GFF?
I have quite a few barnyard mixes, and it takes some effort to repeatedly get a deep olive eggshell color beyond an F1 hybrid.
I say this because you indicated you have mostly blue eggs from the other Rees-line CL, so it seems to me that either there are established flocks out there that are producing significantly deeper green eggshells, or you are seeing an F1 mix?
While eggshell color can lighten over time, and it is usually the green tint that disappears first from the Cream Legbar eggshells, it seems likely that the olive egg in your previous picture will remain significantly more green than blue. Hope you'll keep us in the loop with more pics =)

 

[ChicKat]

Well this is it---

tonight the Cream Legbar Club's survey closes...I sent an email yesterday and one today as a reminder -- so if you didn't get one-- you aren't on the current enrollment list. (or if you went to the website to correct your email for us-- It isn't reconciled...but we have found some typos...so we are progressing.

At 11:45PM USA Central time the survey will turn into a pumpkin and the chance to weigh in for this round will be closed.

Thanks to all who have responded. PM me if you are a Club member and didn't get the link to the survey -- mosey over to the Club's website and enter your email address so we can get it correct...and have a pleasant evening one-and-all.

 

[Fire Ant Farm]

Regarding egg color, the ideal color was chosen as blue since that's what we all started with and what we wanted (as well as what we thought Punnett intended, thank you Kathy!). Over time we came to realize that some people see shades of blue as green, and we decided as a club to add it to the standard almost 2 years before Rees line birds were made available in the USA. If there is enough interest in adding olive we can reopen discussions regarding that color, but I think most of us still prefer blue (with greenish blue a close second) and green over olive.

The Cream Legbar Standard is on draft 4, and it will be considered a draft until the final copy is voted on for approval and sent in to the APA the summer of 2018.

Thank you so much for that clarification - it helps me wrap my head around things.

- Ant Farm

 

[KPenley]

Thank you so much for that clarification - it helps me wrap my head around things. 



- Ant Farm

Glad to help

 

[All Ball]

Hope I'm not beating this (whatever) to death as they say - but I'm trying to get clear on my messaging to folks who take my birds, regarding crests and birds for potential breeding vs. backyard blue-eggs.

I gather from Sol2go's helpful comments that I have birds with 1 cresting gene, as 2/7 don't have crests.

I had originally taken away from the discussion that these birds could be helpful because this breed has a very difficult big crest=floppy comb paradox, so you could combine a non-crested with a big-crested to tame your crests.

But looking over those posts again, perhaps the goal is to totally NOT breed the non-crested as part of a goal of eliminating the non-crested genes from the pool, to the extent that is feasible. So I should really discourage people from using not only the 2 non-crested, but possibly others with smaller crests, in breeding??? I personally don't like the bouffants...but it sounds like a certain minimal level of crest = lack of 2 cresting genes....

Is there any sort of consensus on this among club members? My initial tendency, as a backyard egg-and-pets person, is to get to liking my birds and wanting to find homes for these nice, cool-looking boys that I can't keep in the city, but I want to be responsible and do good by the breed.

 

[dheltzel]

Hope I'm not beating this (whatever) to death as they say - but I'm trying to get clear on my messaging to folks who take my birds, regarding crests and birds for potential breeding vs. backyard blue-eggs.

I gather from Sol2go's helpful comments that I have birds with 1 cresting gene, as 2/7 don't have crests.

I had originally taken away from the discussion that these birds could be helpful because this breed has a very difficult big crest=floppy comb paradox, so you could combine a non-crested with a big-crested to tame your crests.

But looking over those posts again, perhaps the goal is to totally NOT breed the non-crested as part of a goal of eliminating the non-crested genes from the pool, to the extent that is feasible. So I should really discourage people from using not only the 2 non-crested, but possibly others with smaller crests, in breeding??? I personally don't like the bouffants...but it sounds like a certain minimal level of crest = lack of 2 cresting genes....

Is there any sort of consensus on this among club members? My initial tendency, as a backyard egg-and-pets person, is to get to liking my birds and wanting to find homes for these nice, cool-looking boys that I can't keep in the city, but I want to be responsible and do good by the breed.

I'm not a club member, or a particular expert on CCL's, but I understand a bit about genetics. The gene for the crests seems to be partially dominant (a very common thing in chickens), so a small crest indicates the genotype is heterozygous, and that will not breed true. Very rarely does a standard endorse a trait that does not breed true (blue coloring, as in BBS, is the only example I can think of, and it's sometimes controversial for that very reason). So if a crest is desired in the standard, you should only work toward fully crested birds that produce consistent sized crests in their offspring. There may be genetic modifiers to make the crests smaller or larger, but don't include a non-crested bird in your program to get the crests smaller, that is a solution you cannot cleanly breed for, as non-crested birds will keep popping up.

That said, I believe we all keep these birds for the joy they bring us first, and foremost. If you prefer small or no crests, or gold instead of cream, or rosecombs, or whatever, there is no harm in breeding for the birds you like, unless you mis-represent them when distributing them to others. As long as you are honest about their show quality (or lack thereof), they can be great and popular chickens for many people.

 

[mommaofchickens]

I just wanted to share these with you all I'm extremely new to cream legbars but they are so stinking cute and so excited to have them