I would agree with Zach, the bird in question is certainly a splash pyle. A blue splash wheaten looks almost identical to a red pyle. The fact is Ideal has blues and no whites, and I have seen many many people get blue splash birds from Ideal that basically look like pyles. A pure white( recessive) white could appear out of that line, but not a dominant white based true red pyle. 4h Mom you are correct that real true red pyles are dominant white plus BB Red. But Splash based pyles can look so similar you'd almost have to test mate them at times to find out, but from Ideal I'd say almost surely splash based. Regardless of what they ( Ideal) say they have, they seem to have mixed pens containing every possible variation of silver , gold , and red wheatens, and blues, blacks, and splash pyles. On an interesting side note, many old breeders say pyles can be made using recessive white. I don't know how that works, but, I've seen enough weird textbook impossible things lately to not discount the old masters offhand.