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I still say Felix1 has a blue red or blue golden splash. Ideal does not have white in thier program.
 
Here is a blue red splash from several years ago. Not wheaten, but duckwing based.







and here is a wheaten based splash cubalaya pullet. Neither one lived to be a year old.




 
there are different ways to make red pyle it's just the way with white is the most populr. the reasoning behind this is thet a red pyle is just a bbred with a black dilution
 
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I would agree with Zach, the bird in question is certainly a splash pyle. A blue splash wheaten looks almost identical to a red pyle. The fact is Ideal has blues and no whites, and I have seen many many people get blue splash birds from Ideal that basically look like pyles. A pure white( recessive) white could appear out of that line, but not a dominant white based true red pyle. 4h Mom you are correct that real true red pyles are dominant white plus BB Red. But Splash based pyles can look so similar you'd almost have to test mate them at times to find out, but from Ideal I'd say almost surely splash based. Regardless of what they ( Ideal) say they have, they seem to have mixed pens containing every possible variation of silver , gold , and red wheatens, and blues, blacks, and splash pyles. On an interesting side note, many old breeders say pyles can be made using recessive white. I don't know how that works, but, I've seen enough weird textbook impossible things lately to not discount the old masters offhand.
 
Thanks for the responses. I spoke with my sister and she said the bird has blue as well so it sounds like a blue red splash. I had ordered bb red males and blue red pullets. It seems what I got was the reverse.

I was lured to ideal by the low minimum and ability to sex. After losing 8 out of 8 pullets in my first order and 9 out of 14 in the next this last deal is enough for me to say uncle and move on.
 
Here is a hatch from May 25, 2013. I am surprised to see so many smoky colored ones. Her previous hatch had only one out of nine that was smoky colored.



Here are the parents. Both parents have one black parent.
 

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