Definition of Heritage Breeds

[kathyinmo]

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Do you see a big difference in these, for example?
1920

2010

 

[fowlman01]

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Just curious...which breeds do you feel have changed significantly over the years? and to their betterment or in a detrimental way? A profile does not tell the whole story, so we would need to compare front, rear and top shots. A profile does not show the width of body, leg spacing and many of the other crucial attributes of a thrifty bird. If you don't have the proper capacity for the birds organs, you don't have a viable bird.

Walt

 

[Pyncheon guy]

I guess I still don't understand why the APA would be the one to say whether or not MY breed is considered a "heritage" breed. There were several breeds/varieties of poultry that existed LONG BEFORE the APA began. Just because they didn't have a written standard and were not recognized by the APA or have their seal of approval shouldn't exclude them from being a "true" heritage breed.... A diamond is a diamond whether it's still in the ground in South Africa or mounted and set in a pair of ear-rings in a jewelry store. A breed of poultry is still the same breed whether it's raised out in a field or a backyard coop......how it produces and perpetuates is in the hands of the breeder(s).

 

[punky rooster]

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Do you see a big difference in these, for example?
1920
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/ducktang_2009/Vintage Rocks/IMG_0642.jpg
2010
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_01-16-2011064wm.jpg

That is awesome!

 

[centrarchid]

No. Barred rock efforts have been faithful to appearance although older version of barred rock does look alot like show quality American Doms of today. Generate a similar comparison for American Dominiques. That is best example I can think of.

Genetically, differences will likely startle you.

 

[fowlman01]

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Do you see a big difference in these, for example?
1920
http://i993.photobucket.com/albums/af60/ducktang_2009/Vintage Rocks/IMG_0642.jpg
2010
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/31282_01-16-2011064wm.jpg

Yours is walking, so the tail angle appears different.. It is very difficult to get good pictures of chickens. I don't see where Rocks have changed other than some of the show birds are too big. If the bird can breed, I'm not sure that a big male bird is a problem. It kind of takes care of itself. When a bird like a Rock gets too big, the legs go, just like they do in the Rock/Cornish crosses.

Walt

 

[rtroxel]

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The APA is not determining this. Organizations like the ALBC, SPPA, and Heritage Poultry Conservancy are. And I'm not opposed to what they are doing, but we are debating their definitions.

 

[fowlman01]

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Show quality Doms don't look anything like Rocks and the barring is V shaped instead of straight, so they look more cuckcoo than barred.
There are some very good Dom LF here in the west.

 

[centrarchid]

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Show quality Doms don't look anything like Rocks and the barring is V shaped instead of straight, so they look more cuckcoo than barred.
There are some very good Dom LF here in the west.

To clarify, show doms of today look very similar to show barred rocks of past in terms of overall conformation / body shape.

 

[fowlman01]

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The APA is not determining this. Organizations like the ALBC, SPPA, and Heritage Poultry Conservancy are. And I'm not opposed to what they are doing, but we are debating their definitions.

The APA has nothing to do with this other than it has a committee studying "heritage" poultry.

Walt