I'll have to check the second one, but I just noticed on the first today just a single feather that was red under her chin on her neck... didn't see if there was more... all the black boys turned out solid black, and leggy... the girls are coming out with the shortest legs, lol... I don't mind the work either, like you just keep replacing with better offspring... just had to get that through the OH's head, lol... he gets faves and wants to keep them all... and experiment with crossing this with that, and so on...