Do you still have to worm if you use DE?

[dawg53]

CC's CoopCuties :

threehorses posted comprehensive information on worming chickens.
a great read, but lengthy.

Save yourself time by using Valbazen (albendazole) liquid cattle/sheep wormer. It kills all known worms that chickens can get that other wormers and organics dont get.
http://healthybirds.umd.edu/Disease/Deworming Birds.pdf​

 

[Hangin Wit My Peeps]

I use DE and canned pumpkin (which they LOVE) as a preventative NOT a cure. IF You do happen to get worms which you may not, then you have to use Wazine or something like that to get rid of them. I have been raising chickens for five years and never had my chickens get worms yet

Warning: If you try canned pumpkin, throw it in the bowl and BACK AWAY LOLOL If you don't you will end up with orange splatters all over you

 

[cobrien]

I have not wormed but take my chickens poop to the vet to be tested 1x/year. Their feet touch the ground but they haven't had worms in the 6 years I've been testing them. I use DE but don't consider it a treatment for worms, I use it for insect control. I don't understand how DE which is supposedly ineffective when wet could accomplish anything in the stomach or intestines. But I prefer to only use poison if absolutely needed. It costs more the way I do it but I like this method better. The test is not 100% accurate but I do 3-5 tests 1x/yr so statistics are on my side.

Note that your chickens can have worms without symptoms. They will only show symptoms if they have a massive infection and by then it could be too late to help them. So if you don't test the poop you won't know.

 

[Mac in Wisco]

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As I've been explaining over in a thread about fly control, in my opinion DE is mostly snake oil; many claims that are backed up by nothing.

The key to insect control is keeping the litter dry. Wet manure is a breeding ground for many insects. People will tell you that DE is only affective in dry litter and ineffective in wet litter, yet the key is keeping things dry to reduce breeding areas, not necessarily in the use of DE.

 

[FrenchToast]

Ok, so lets say you deworm once or twice a year, even if you don't see worms etc. You are not suppose to eat the eggs for a week or so. I understand that you don't want any of the chemical wormer to show up in your eggs.

Buy my question now is, when you deworm them and they in fact have worms has anyone ever had wormy eggs following a deworming ? I know you can get worms in the eggs if the infestation is bad enough and the worm actually moves up into the ovaduct and gets inside the egg while it is being made.

Just always been curious if the worms can get inside the egg after a deworming ? I sell my eggs and I would hate for a worm to show up !!!!! So I would like to start a deworming program but that scares me too !

Thanks

 

[mandelyn]

You toss the eggs because of the wormer itself. Any chemical you give to the bird goes into the eggs, antibiotics and all. Eating animals either need a period of "rest" to allow wormers and other stuff out of their system, or not wormed at all if they're for human consumption. Same with the eggs.

 

[dawg53]

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Worms in an egg after worming? The worms are paralyzed, in the process of dying or dead after worming.

 

[FrenchToast]

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Worms in an egg after worming? The worms are paralyzed, in the process of dying or dead after worming.

Guess I made my question as clear as mud hey? I should of asked. Has anyone that ever wormed a chicken that had worms found any DEAD worms in the eggs? I know the chance would be slim but ??? Just curious.

 

[FrenchToast]

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Yep I know. See my newer post above. thanks

 

[dawg53]

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Worms in an egg after worming? The worms are paralyzed, in the process of dying or dead after worming.

Guess I made my question as clear as mud hey? I should of asked. Has anyone that ever wormed a chicken that had worms found any DEAD worms in the eggs? I know the chance would be slim but ??? Just curious.

I bet the person that found this roundworm in this egg turned around and wormed his chickens lol.