Does greenish tinged coelom fluid mean infection?

[micstrachan]

@Eggcessive Kim, I’m tagging you specifically because I believe you are or were a nurse, correct? I understand that veterinary medicine and human medicine are not necessarily the same but I’m hoping you’ll know the answer to this. We have other very experienced people on here and I’d appreciate if they would weigh in, as well.

My chicken Lucky seemed to get her laying hormones back recently, but did not produce an egg and now she’s swollen up quite significantly. I can definitely tell she has discomfort. I was able to draw some fluid off of her today and was surprised to see that it has a green tinge to it. Does that mean infection? I understand that ascites is just a symptom and she has an underlying condition causing it, but I’m wondering if the color of the fluid gives us a hint at all. Thank you!

I was only able to do one syringe full, as I could not manage holding onto her and then coupling the syringe from the tube by myself. However, she did continue to drip significantly on a towel on my lap, and then afterward, when I released her. I hope it provide some relief for her today.

Edited later to correct voice to text errors.

 

[azygous]

For your reading pleasure. https://labpedia.net/fluid-analysis...dominal-paracentesis-abdominal-tap-procedure/

Pertinent info:

Physical appearance	Significance
Clear and pale yellow	Normal
Turbid	Bacterial infection
Bloodstained	Trauma, malignancy, or infection
Green	Gallbladder and pancreatic diseases
Milky	Lymphatic blockage and trauma
Biochemical findings
Amylase	Pancreatitis and gastrointestinal perforation
Glucose	Decreased in TB peritonitis and malignancy
Alkaline phosphatase	Increased gastrointestinal perforation
CEA	In malignancy of the gastrointestinal system
CA 125	In ovarian malignancies
Blood urea nitrogen/creatinine	Ruptured and punctured urinary bladder
Microscopic findings
WBCs count <500/cmm	Normal
>500/cmm	Bacterial peritonitis and cirrhosis
Gram stain and culture	Bacterial peritonitis
Acid-fast stain	TB peritonitis

 

[EggSighted4Life]

my chicken in Lucky seem to get her laying hormones back recently, but did not produce and I get and now she’s swollen up quite significantly. I can definitely tell she has discomfort. I was able to draw some fluid off of her today and was surprised to see that it has a green tinge to it. Does that mean infection? I understand that ascites is just a symptom and she has an underlying condition causing it, but I’m wondering if the color of the fluid gives us a hint at all.

Is she laying internally.. egg yolk periotinitis?

 

[Eggcessive]

The green fluid could mean that there is gallbladder involvement, blocked bile duct or gall stone.

 

[micstrachan]

For your reading pleasure. https://labpedia.net/fluid-analysis...dominal-paracentesis-abdominal-tap-procedure/

Pertinent info:

Physical appearance	Significance
Clear and pale yellow	Normal
Turbid	Bacterial infection
Bloodstained	Trauma, malignancy, or infection
Green	Gallbladder and pancreatic diseases
Milky	Lymphatic blockage and trauma
Biochemical findings
Amylase	Pancreatitis and gastrointestinal perforation
Glucose	Decreased in TB peritonitis and malignancy
Alkaline phosphatase	Increased gastrointestinal perforation
CEA	In malignancy of the gastrointestinal system
CA 125	In ovarian malignancies
Blood urea nitrogen/creatinine	Ruptured and punctured urinary bladder
Microscopic findings
WBCs count <500/cmm	Normal
>500/cmm	Bacterial peritonitis and cirrhosis
Gram stain and culture	Bacterial peritonitis
Acid-fast stain	TB peritonitis

Thank you, Carol!

 

[micstrachan]

Is she laying internally.. egg yolk periotinitis?

I don’t think so. The fluid does not appear to have egg yolk in it. Of course, that’s still a possibility, anyway.

I have to go on a work trip Wednesday through Friday of this coming week, so would not be able to start antibiotics until after then. Feels like a long way away.

 

[Aunt Angus]

I don’t think so. The fluid does not appear to have egg yolk in it. Of course, that’s still a possibility, anyway.

I have to go on a work trip Wednesday through Friday of this coming week, so would not be able to start antibiotics until after then. Feels like a long way away.

When my duck was laying internally, the fluid extracted was opaque yellow - like straight egg yolk. This looks very different to me.

 

[micstrachan]

When my duck was laying internally, the fluid extracted was opaque yellow - like straight egg yolk. This looks very different to me.

Same here. I had a young hen about 5 or so years ago who had yolk colored fluid tapped by an avian vet. He diagnosed her with EYP.

 

[micstrachan]

So this is a bit alarming to me. I took the fluid off Lucky about 14 hours ago. I just got home about half an hour ago from Thanksgiving dinner and she is STILL DRIPPING. I thought taking too much fluid off a hen with ascites can send them into shock. I offered her some liquidy baby bird formula via red head lamp and she took a few sips. I also placed a microwavable heat disk beside her to cozy up to if she wants since a strip of her back side is wet and it’s 41°F out. I tried to get a feel of her abdomen and I think the swelling is gone. My gosh, I hope this doesn’t kill her.

 

[Aunt Angus]

So this is a bit alarming to me. I took the fluid off Lucky about 14 hours ago. I just got home about half an hour ago from Thanksgiving dinner and she is STILL DRIPPING. I thought taking too much fluid off a hen with ascites can send them into shock. I offered her some liquidy baby bird formula via red head lamp and she took a few sips. I also placed a microwavable heat disk beside her to cozy up to if she wants since a strip of her back side is wet and it’s 41°F out. I tried to get a feel of her abdomen and I think the swelling is gone. My gosh, I hope this doesn’t kill her.

Poor girl. I hope she hangs on.


If she does pass, it wouldn't be the draining that caused it. It would be the fault of whatever underlying disease she has.