Dominique Thread!

[centrarchid]

It can vary, I find about 1 in 30 or so. The ones who usually have the single combs are the roosters, though I've had hens with single combs too. I do not use them in my breeding program.

They are still Dominiques, just with a defect. It is like an orpington with pink legs (instead of white), or a polish without a crest. They are still that breed, just defective specimens.

Where did the dominiques come from. One source I have found to have high frequency of single combs.

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

My Dominiques are a blend of different strains, predominantly including Stichler and Voter.

What strain did you find throws out a lot of single combs?

 

[centrarchid]

My Dominiques are a blend of different strains, predominantly including Stichler and Voter.

What strain did you find throws out a lot of single combs?

Ideal strain out of New Mexico. I suspect they incorpated a single comb breed of some sort to facilitate feather sexing. My guess is the single comb breed was barred Plymouth Rock.


I also have a blended Voter strain of American dominiques. Mine do not throw single combs but occasionally a white bird pops up but not since new blood was blended in.

 

[extraordinaryfowl]

That would make sense that hatchery birds would be more likely to be less pure and therefore more likely to throw single combs . .

I have hatched hundreds of chicks but have never had any whites. Do you mean you got them just when breeding the pure Voter birds without any other strains?

 

[centrarchid]

That would make sense that hatchery birds would be more likely to be less pure and therefore more likely to throw single combs . .

I have hatched hundreds of chicks but have never had any whites. Do you mean you got them just when breeding the pure Voter birds without any other strains?

Hatcheries will not be the only source for single combed birds. You can also have reverse mutations, higher frequency of single comb alleles owing to founders you start with (your case versus mine), or private individuals (perverts like me) that are working with a dominique strain by introducing alleles from another breed.


My Voter strain when bred to itself tended to throw a small percentage of white birds.

 

[buffalogal]

Ideal is down in Texas. Privett is out in New Mexico. Not sure which one you meant.

 

[centrarchid]

Ideal is down in Texas. Privett is out in New Mexico. Not sure which one you meant.

Ideal was vendor I purchased them from. Privett was sub-contractor that produced chicks of lot I purchased.

 

[vnsseed]

Wrong Dominique, Remember back then the term Dominique also meant a color/pattern.
The Dominique that was used to create the Barred Rock was a Single Comb Breed that most likely a game breed.


Chris

Not according to this article from 1916 from the National Barred Rock Journal, that cites "American Dominique"

http://books.google.com/books?id=8k...lack java and dominique + barred rock&f=false


or this one:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EA... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false

or this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rC... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false

or this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=c-... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false


Just sayin is all.

 

[Chris09]

Not according to this article from 1916 from the National Barred Rock Journal, that cites "American Dominique"

http://books.google.com/books?id=8k...lack java and dominique + barred rock&f=false


or this one:
http://books.google.com/books?id=EA... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false

or this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=rC... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false

or this one:

http://books.google.com/books?id=c-... and american dominique + barred rock&f=false


Just sayin is all.

Note the words being used in the links you posted.
They all state American Dominique which is very different from just the term Dominique or Dom.
In history there have been,

Dominique Leghorn
Dominique Gamefowl (nearly ever type of gamefowl has a Dominique/Dom pattern)
Dominique Spanish Fowl
American Dominique
etc.

Chris

 

[vnsseed]

Note the words being used in the links you posted.
They all state American Dominique which is very different from just the term Dominique or Dom.
In history there have been,

Dominique Leghorn
Dominique Gamefowl (nearly ever type of gamefowl has a Dominique/Dom pattern)
Dominique Spanish Fowl
American Dominique
etc.

Chris

Exactly my point... American Dominiques and Black Javas were used to create Barred Rocks... you were the one who argued it was a Dominique game fowl and not an American Dominique.