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hi guys
i had a duckling hatch early last week from a breach position which at first I thought had curled toes. But it now sems like either some sort of leg deformity that I cant find any info on, or a neurological issue, which seems to be getting worse the stronger the duckling gets.
Since hatching the duckling has always held its legs behind it, superman style (think superman flying thru the air).
At first i could stand the duckling up, and place its legs in the correct position and it would atand at way. But day by day its legs seem to resist being placed in a normal position more and more, so that its legs now not only stick out behind it, but seem to almost be developing a backward upwards curve.
I also now cannot move the feet into the normal position for standing (ie feet on ground pointing forward, at a right angle to the lower leg. Its like the legs are almost frozen or spasming so that the duckling if it was standing could only stand on tip toes.
The legs are not splayed out to the sides like in spraddle leg. There is no swelling at the joints or elsewhere or any sign of injury, and i dont think this strange position is caused by a fracture, break, tendon issue, etc. it seems more like the joints are contorting themselves into this unnatural position.
When swimming in water too deep to touch the bottom the duckling is still in the same position,like superman, or a child with a kickboard learning to paddle. Its legs are behind it.
Also it sometimes looks like it is trying to scratch its face with its foot as ducklings sometimes do, but when it moves its face over sideways to be acratched, the leg instead of coming round to the face, goes back, up and to the opposite side. Like the message from the brain to the leg is getting mixed up.
At first i thought it was curled toes and legs being poaitioned badly in the small end of the egg. Then i was sure it was neurological, the brain giving the wrong message to the legs (or measGe getting mixed up between brain and leg/foot). Now it also seems like the lgs themselves are starting to stiffen and contort into this unnatural position.The only time i have ever seen limbs behave like this to be honest, is horror movies where people get possessed and their legs and/or arms start bending in the opposite direction to what they normally do
The duckling is now 5 days old and the legs quite strongly resist me trying to put them into a normal standing position. On days 1-2 after hatch i could easily put the legs in this position.
It does not look at all like any pictures or videos i have seen of spraddle leg, splayed leg, niacin deficiency legs (which I have seen before). Its definately not anything like a slipped tendon, Ive seen that also, and the tendon is in the right position.
While it kind seems neurological, the duckling does not have any other neuro symptoms, ie no seizures, no seeming lack of control of movement, no balance issues beyond its legs being stuck up behing it. Its not throwing its head way back like ive seen a duckling with neuro symptoms do before.
Its really bizarre and i cannot find anything on the web, or in text books or anywhere quite like it
Does anyone have any idea what might be going on, or how I can find more info?
Duckling is on a diet with plenty of niacin, riboflavin, and all other vitamins and minerala that deficiencies of could possibly cause any symptoms like this, and I am baffled.
It seems the stronger the duckling gets as it grows, the more pronounced this leg thing is...
The duckling cannot walk or sit, and can only sort of swim, and often its leg goes up and towards the othe side and almost flips the duckling onto its back. If left in a pool unsupervised it would most likely drown reasonably quickly because it isnt able to gain enough traction/speed to keep afloat.
I can try and post some videos if anyone thinks they have any idea...
Ill try and upload something to utube but i live in a rural area and the only internet i have is via my 3g mobile phone which has only 1 bar coverage here, so uploading anything larger than a few hundred kb is a time consuming failure ridden process.
If i can get anything to upload ill post a link here. I do have a video about the hatch which has the duckling at the end, but it doesnt show anything more than the general position of the legs., ill dig out the url and post in a comment.
If anyone has some experience with something lke this and thinks they can help, and would ke me to try and get a video of the duckling from a specific angle etc, please post and I will try and video then upload something.
i had a duckling hatch early last week from a breach position which at first I thought had curled toes. But it now sems like either some sort of leg deformity that I cant find any info on, or a neurological issue, which seems to be getting worse the stronger the duckling gets.
Since hatching the duckling has always held its legs behind it, superman style (think superman flying thru the air).
At first i could stand the duckling up, and place its legs in the correct position and it would atand at way. But day by day its legs seem to resist being placed in a normal position more and more, so that its legs now not only stick out behind it, but seem to almost be developing a backward upwards curve.
I also now cannot move the feet into the normal position for standing (ie feet on ground pointing forward, at a right angle to the lower leg. Its like the legs are almost frozen or spasming so that the duckling if it was standing could only stand on tip toes.
The legs are not splayed out to the sides like in spraddle leg. There is no swelling at the joints or elsewhere or any sign of injury, and i dont think this strange position is caused by a fracture, break, tendon issue, etc. it seems more like the joints are contorting themselves into this unnatural position.
When swimming in water too deep to touch the bottom the duckling is still in the same position,like superman, or a child with a kickboard learning to paddle. Its legs are behind it.
Also it sometimes looks like it is trying to scratch its face with its foot as ducklings sometimes do, but when it moves its face over sideways to be acratched, the leg instead of coming round to the face, goes back, up and to the opposite side. Like the message from the brain to the leg is getting mixed up.
At first i thought it was curled toes and legs being poaitioned badly in the small end of the egg. Then i was sure it was neurological, the brain giving the wrong message to the legs (or measGe getting mixed up between brain and leg/foot). Now it also seems like the lgs themselves are starting to stiffen and contort into this unnatural position.The only time i have ever seen limbs behave like this to be honest, is horror movies where people get possessed and their legs and/or arms start bending in the opposite direction to what they normally do
The duckling is now 5 days old and the legs quite strongly resist me trying to put them into a normal standing position. On days 1-2 after hatch i could easily put the legs in this position.
It does not look at all like any pictures or videos i have seen of spraddle leg, splayed leg, niacin deficiency legs (which I have seen before). Its definately not anything like a slipped tendon, Ive seen that also, and the tendon is in the right position.
While it kind seems neurological, the duckling does not have any other neuro symptoms, ie no seizures, no seeming lack of control of movement, no balance issues beyond its legs being stuck up behing it. Its not throwing its head way back like ive seen a duckling with neuro symptoms do before.
Its really bizarre and i cannot find anything on the web, or in text books or anywhere quite like it
Does anyone have any idea what might be going on, or how I can find more info?
Duckling is on a diet with plenty of niacin, riboflavin, and all other vitamins and minerala that deficiencies of could possibly cause any symptoms like this, and I am baffled.
It seems the stronger the duckling gets as it grows, the more pronounced this leg thing is...
The duckling cannot walk or sit, and can only sort of swim, and often its leg goes up and towards the othe side and almost flips the duckling onto its back. If left in a pool unsupervised it would most likely drown reasonably quickly because it isnt able to gain enough traction/speed to keep afloat.
I can try and post some videos if anyone thinks they have any idea...
Ill try and upload something to utube but i live in a rural area and the only internet i have is via my 3g mobile phone which has only 1 bar coverage here, so uploading anything larger than a few hundred kb is a time consuming failure ridden process.
If i can get anything to upload ill post a link here. I do have a video about the hatch which has the duckling at the end, but it doesnt show anything more than the general position of the legs., ill dig out the url and post in a comment.
If anyone has some experience with something lke this and thinks they can help, and would ke me to try and get a video of the duckling from a specific angle etc, please post and I will try and video then upload something.
