Egg Swiping at Shows

[()relics]

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No you cannot because the judge has to be able to go into the cage to get the bird out for judging.

It is also not worthwhile as one can simply lift the cage and slide the bird out from underneath. Show cages have no bottoms,

I keep locks on my cages until the judge approaches my row. As far as the cages with no bottoms, They usually are in a bank of several cages. If someone was to lift the bank 3 or 4 birds would have the chance to get under the cage. I would Doubt Anyone could get this done without raising a tremndous amount of chaos...But nothing is impossible...I was at a show last year and wa one of the first people in the barn on the second day. I found someone had opened several cages and birds were out everywhere even roosting in the rafters....I helped round up the birds then went to the hardware store and bought padlocks for all my cages...

 

[Brick243]

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Yes you can but the locks MUST be removed before judging and then you can put them back on if they dont take BB or RB, then once they have picked a class champion they can go back on"unless you are the one with the class champ. or reserve class champ!" I keep locks on mine and I also keep other people from touching my birds with out my permition too! When you get stragglers that go around and handle sale birds then touch peoples show birds you are bound to catch something!!! Locks help prevent this too!

Good point, that was about what I was thinking also.

 

[NEK38583]

In April a show I went to. I wasn't showing I just went to look at the birds that was for sale. I brought a pair from a guy and his hen that he was showing laid an egg after the show he ask me if I wanted it and he let me have the egg. So, I guess they have not got a rule at that show about eggs belonging to the show.

 

[Ryu]

My show hens are probably not laying fertile eggs at shows. Not because I am afraid of egg theft, but I don't want to risk a broken wing feather from treading.

We have a young kid in our club who is bird crazy, he always asks for eggs if he sees them in the cage and usually the exhibitor gives it to him or says it's not fertile. He takes them home and hatches them, he loves the surprise of seeing what hatches.

I do want the show staff to take eggs out of the eggs if I don't get it first, I don't want it to get stepped on and make a mess in the cage--or get the hen started eating eggs. They should remove the eggs and not leave them on the cage tops though. For our show, we collect in the evening when we close the hall. We do destroy them all by cracking them into a trash can.

That said I've had one breeder confess that his entire line started from a stolen egg. He had driven to a show rather far away to pick up a breeding pair, and when he got there the person had decided not to sell the birds. They told him he was out of luck and turned their back and walked away, and he saw an egg in the hen's pen and took it, drove it home and hatched it.

If you asked, I'd give you the egg. I show because I like the competition and if you think my stuff can help you out--I'll take it as a compliment.

 

[High Roost Ranch]

That said I've had one breeder confess that his entire line started from a stolen egg. He had driven to a show rather far away to pick up a breeding pair, and when he got there the person had decided not to sell the birds. They told him he was out of luck and turned their back and walked away, and he saw an egg in the hen's pen and took it, drove it home and hatched it.

Well, I guess that's one way of giving a snub to that breeder who backed out without a courtesy notice before the buyer made that long drive. Guess I don't know what to think of that one. I kind of snicker, and at the same time, shake my head.

You can lock or zip tie your cage doors, BUT, if the judge gets there and the door is inaccessible, the bird will not be judged. The only time I know of birds going MIA is on the second day, the day of coop out, when somehow, someone gets into the building before they are supposed to to coop out early. That's when mine went missing, some time from Saturday evening lock down to OFFICIAL coop out time on Sunday. I've never heard of a bird going MIA during the show itself when everyone's busy watching the judging. I don't know if it's honest mistakes or outright theft most of the time. But when I lock a cage, it's for those irreplaceable birds that may disappear during the coop out process. I suffer more anxiety during coop out than at any other time during the show. Until all mine are safely in their carriers and back in my vehicle, I am stressed, stressed, stressed.​

 

[rancher hicks]

Well I just went to the show at the NYS fair grounds and they didn't have any auctioning or drawing for eggs laid there. I did see at least one egg in a pen.
There was just enough space to take so I did and I managed to take all the dark maran eggs from the display table. There were some nice dark Golden Cuckoos there so I should have some chicks soon. All Right I'm just kidding. There isn't anything worth taking that will result in sleepless nights and bad feelings.
Heck there weren' even any golden cuckoos there. Honestly there weren't any breeds there I would really want. The Silkies all had this funny look in there eyes,like they knew what I was thinking. Which they didn't thanks to the tin foil hat I had on under my ball cap. If they had they would have been afraid. Ok enough humor.

 

[LilPeeps]

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I agree that if it's a posted rule, either follow it or don't show there. I disagree that it's a universal rule though. I have never seen it at any shows I have attended (most of which are in the northeast). I did attend the Ohio nationals this past year, although I didn't show there. I never saw the showbook, so I'm not sure whether the rule applied there or not, but I know it does not at the shows I participate in around here.

IMO, if your bird laid the egg, it's yours, regardless of where the bird was when the egg came out.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Agreed--otherwise most of our children would belong to the hospitals

Maybe the eggs belonging to the shows is a regional thing. I show in the southwest--the farthest north or east I've shown was Denver, and that was several years ago.

 

[colowyo0809]

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Agreed--otherwise most of our children would belong to the hospitals

Maybe the eggs belonging to the shows is a regional thing. I show in the southwest--the farthest north or east I've shown was Denver, and that was several years ago.

In some countries, the baby belongs to the state, essentially you are just the caretaker

Also, in alot of cities or counties all dogs belong to that city or county, you are just the caretaker. Luckily, we don't live in one of those countries, and we here don't live in one of those cities or counties!

 

[Ryu]

We had to put in our show catalog that if you don't take you birds from the show that they become property of the Club. Some one left a bunch of birds, we tried contacting them for a month, and they never answered the phone messages or replied to certified mail.

They called almost a year later and asked where his birds were. He ackowledged that he recieved the letter telling him that the birds would become property of the club if he didn't reply within two weeks of recieving the letter and then they would be disposed of. The member that was keeping them was allowed to sell them after 6 months--so the birds were gone.

The former owner then wanted compensation--much much much more than the birds were worth.

So we have a line about if you don't contact us within 48 hours of leaving your bird it is property of the club.

Anyway...sometimes the rules in the bok are there because the club had some kind of trouble in the past.