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I so wish I was there and could give you a big hug right now!

and slap your doc!

And I think switching doc's is a good idea at this point.
 
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on the TMI side....I have totally not been in the mood at all for about 2 weeks now and when we do, it's not very comfy. So...do I tell DH that we are doin it to get em out? or do you think that's too much stress?
I forgot about the accupressure, I am not gonna try that yet. I think I need about 2 days and then I will be ready to try all the crazy stuff. I have bills to pay, curtains to make and today I am going through what I packed for the hospital to be sure it's what I need. I had packed the bag anticipating warm weather, haha...what was I thinking? now that I know it will not be warm I need to re assess the outfits for us. I wonder if the hospital will be on the warm side or the cool side? I was also hoping it would be warm out since I didn't want to worry about heating the house for shane. maybe I will buy some oil for the furnace cause I really dont want him to breathe in smoke from the wood stove and the wood stove is so drying his skin would not like that. good thing we will qualify for heap come this winter since we will have 1 more family member.

It will be tough to communicate once I leave for the hospital since I dont have one of those fancy gadget phones that you can get online with, but my sister or dad might have a computer or something they can bring to the hospital. I will let you guys know when I am headed to the hospital and then when I get home I can post pics.

oh I read yesterday that boys are often born with erections!!
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TMI ALERT!!!!!!!! So Dh and I hadn't done anything in like a month because of moving, and the fact that I work 7am to 7pm, and I'm just not in the mood by the time I get home, and for a while DH and I had to work 24 hour shifts as our night care person quit, and well, It freaks him out to do "it" while I'm soo pregnant, last time he had his hand on my belly and got kicked and that ruined his mood. Well anyway, I told him last night I want this baby out, do your Duty as my husband, and he did, but OMG that was uncomfortable!!! I think I would rather wait for Luke to come on his own, rather than do that again! No offense Hubby
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Oh and my mom called last night, she told me she is busy Saturday, so hold out for Sunday, and she would really prefer a weekend, as she is taking 2 weeks off work to be with us, and would rather not have to go back to work in the middle of the week
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. I told her that if I had that much control over this baby, he would already be out, LOL!
 
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Poor you! I really think this baby will be fine and its HORRIBLE what you're having to go through to find that out! If he's going to even mention Trisomy 18, he had better be prepared to do an amnio to confirm, if that's what you want!!! He can't go throwing around big scary diagnoses and then not let you get the only 100% diagnostic test for them. If an amnio would make you feel better, I hope you will insist on one and screw what the doctor thinks. They're not gods, regardless of what they sometimes think. Lots of hugs and good thoughts coming your way
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on the TMI side....I have totally not been in the mood at all for about 2 weeks now and when we do, it's not very comfy. So...do I tell DH that we are doin it to get em out? or do you think that's too much stress?
I forgot about the accupressure, I am not gonna try that yet. I think I need about 2 days and then I will be ready to try all the crazy stuff. I have bills to pay, curtains to make and today I am going through what I packed for the hospital to be sure it's what I need. I had packed the bag anticipating warm weather, haha...what was I thinking? now that I know it will not be warm I need to re assess the outfits for us. I wonder if the hospital will be on the warm side or the cool side? I was also hoping it would be warm out since I didn't want to worry about heating the house for shane. maybe I will buy some oil for the furnace cause I really dont want him to breathe in smoke from the wood stove and the wood stove is so drying his skin would not like that. good thing we will qualify for heap come this winter since we will have 1 more family member.

It will be tough to communicate once I leave for the hospital since I dont have one of those fancy gadget phones that you can get online with, but my sister or dad might have a computer or something they can bring to the hospital. I will let you guys know when I am headed to the hospital and then when I get home I can post pics.

oh I read yesterday that boys are often born with erections!!
lau.gif
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figures!

TMI ALERT!!!!!!!! So Dh and I hadn't done anything in like a month because of moving, and the fact that I work 7am to 7pm, and I'm just not in the mood by the time I get home, and for a while DH and I had to work 24 hour shifts as our night care person quit, and well, It freaks him out to do "it" while I'm soo pregnant, last time he had his hand on my belly and got kicked and that ruined his mood. Well anyway, I told him last night I want this baby out, do your Duty as my husband, and he did, but OMG that was uncomfortable!!! I think I would rather wait for Luke to come on his own, rather than do that again! No offense Hubby
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Oh and my mom called last night, she told me she is busy Saturday, so hold out for Sunday, and she would really prefer a weekend, as she is taking 2 weeks off work to be with us, and would rather not have to go back to work in the middle of the week
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. I told her that if I had that much control over this baby, he would already be out, LOL!

Oh, you poor ladies! I am NOT looking forward to those last few weeks of pregnancy (and I'm sorry you're currently stuck in them). I think that they are nature's way of giving moms courage to face the impending pain of labor - whatever it takes to get that baby out!! If it helps, I would tell myself that the baby is a LOT less work inside than outside... that mantra really helped me through the last few weeks.

Kelsey, I understand you not wanting to do anything... it definitely gets painful towards the end. There are some less commonly used positions which work better than most others (at least for us), but I don't think the moderators would like me to be graphically describing sexual positions on this board...
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If you've decided that you're done and your DH hasn't, you could try to freak him out like I (inadvertantly) did to mine. One day I casually mentioned that I could feel the baby's head with my finger and it was strange to think that she was that close to the outside world - after that comment, he wanted NOTHING to do with with me until after she was born
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So if any of your DHs are a little too interested, you might try that trick - it was a VERY effective deterrent!! LOL
 
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Rare Feathers Farm, I don't want to sound mean I am only worried about the unnecessary stress you are putting on you and your baby. Please hear me; there is nothing wrong with your baby! Forget about EIF and T-18 and any other stupid thing they come up with to scare you. These so called professionals are just talking out loud and mention any little thing that isn’t text book, every baby grows differently and it is OUTRAGOUS that they are doing this to you. A Doctor did this very same thing to my SIL last year and you know what? Nothing was wrong; she had a very healthy baby girl. There is nothing wrong with your baby either and you need to understand this or you'll end up making problems for yourself. I recommend you sit down on the floor Indian style with some nice music going, close your eyes, and envision your baby; you need to focus on holding her and seeing how healthy she IS. Your husband also needs to hold you and relax with you messaging your feet and back and envisioning with you how perfect she IS. Again I just want to help you because I feel there is nothing wrong here except the problems you are making by stressing over this. Your baby girl knows you are stressed out and she is feeling it and you are making her scared too.
 
KlaHaYa Gardens What? What? What?

Why did she say the baby would die or be stillborn? And over the phone? Not in person? That is unusual!

The reason she said that is because trisomy 18 produces mostly stillborn babies and if not they normally die soon after birth or within the first year.
But this is all nonsense; RFF has a perfectly healthy baby girl. The chances are something like 1 -3000 that a baby has it. And it takes place within a few hours after the baby is first developed and would have registered should it be a factor, which it is not. I really hate "traditional doctors" and I believe the only reason they do this is so they can do more tests and make more money, nobody with a conscious would do this to a pregnant woman.

Unfortunatly there is nothing uncommon about being told this sort of thing over the phone. The samething happend to my SIL, she was told over the phone that her baby most likely had D/S. My BIL had to threaten an abortion before the OBGYN finally broke and told him it really wasn't an issue that the odds were 1 - 640 and that they hadn't even factored in the fact that my SIL is a perfectly healthy woman with no history in the family all this placed her out about 1 -1200. Ridiculous!​
 
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The reason she said that is because trisomy 18 produces mostly stillborn babies and if not they normally die soon after birth or within the first year.
But this is all nonsense; RFF has a perfectly healthy baby girl. The chances are something like 1 -3000 that a baby has it. And it takes place within a few hours after the baby is first developed and would have registered should it be a factor, which it is not. I really hate "traditional doctors" and I believe the only reason they do this is so they can do more tests and make more money, nobody with a conscious would do this to a pregnant woman.

Unfortunatly there is nothing uncommon about being told this sort of thing over the phone. The samething happend to my SIL, she was told over the phone that her baby most likely had D/S. My BIL had to threaten an abortion before the OBGYN finally broke and told him it really wasn't an issue that the odds were 1 - 640 and that they hadn't even factored in the fact that my SIL is a perfectly healthy woman with no history in the family all this placed her out about 1 -1200. Ridiculous!

Not to mention that my quad screen for TRI 18 came back with LESS than 1 in 54,000

My Downs risk is 1 in 13,000

But the doctor was fast to point out that sometimes there are "false negatives."

She's been doing her job for 7 years.

My MIL is a lab tech and has been for over 30 years. She said that in all of the 30 years' experience she's had she has NEVER had ONE pregnant woman with the results as low as mine have a kid with a chromosome issue. Ever.
 
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Okay--so here is my update...

My MIL calls me at work first thing this morning. Tells me she's sorry but she told the doctors she works with (different clinic) what was going on. She suggested I have my clinic fax over the ultrasound stuff and my history to this other doctor (Dr. B) who has 35+ years in OBGYN and who does u/s himself.

So I called up my clinic and they faxed over the stuff to (Dr. B). About an hour later, (Dr. B's) nurse calls me and tells me to come in on my lunch hour.

So I call up DH and he gets his principal to cover for him. We rush over to the clinic and (Dr. B) sits down with his and looks at all of my history and answers every question we had.

He then says he wants to see this baby's head & heart for himself. So we go right into the u/s room.

He does the u/s and the ENTIRE time he's reading off what he's seeing, what it means, each measurement, etc. He did not at all seem concerned with what he was seeing. He said the "normal" head measurement they were focusing on was 1 cm or less. Hers was right at 1cm. So the top of the "normal" range. The EIF on the heart was still there (just the left side) and just as it was yesterday.

He checked the ENTIRE baby, top to bottom. Measured everything. Told us everything as he was doing it. VERY slowly measured everything. Told us the normal/acceptable range and what he was seeing.

When HE measured her head, he did not see what the u/s tech yesterday was concerned about. His exact words were, "Let's see if I can manipulate this to get a reading like he was getting." He did after a while.

Overall, he said that chances are the baby is fine. He said 95-97% chance that this baby is just fine. HOWEVER, he said that the 3-5% chance it's not and due to mal-practice lawsuits, etc he is REQUIRED to release any findings that are not "normal."

He asked about one of my blood tests, which was done the same day I got confirmation that I was pregnant--which at that time was normal. He was concerned that it hadn't been done since so he ordered another one. Which I did right after the u/s today.

He told me he would call up Spokane and get me in ASAP. And if the perinatologist over there is still concerned after the 3D u/s that he would refer me for amino.

However, DH is strictly against it. He says we're keeping the baby no matter what--so why risk a m/c if the baby might be sick or (more than likely) isn't? However, I'm the other way and would like the amino no matter what because then I can either be relived & happy and start to enjoy things or deal with whatever I need to and get prepared.

So then a few hours after we left the clinic, Dr B's nurse calls me and says she got me an appointment on Monday in Spokane for a Level 2 (3d) u/s with a perinatologist!

Needless to say=
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H & I feel MUCH better and YES we ARE switching doctors!!
 

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